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I wanna see the debtor's movie!

NoBacon

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Patrick’s crack legal team of experts in 3 states that cost over 100,000 dollars never expected the crazy scenario of someone actually defending themselves using the law back.

Who could ever expect such a thing to happen?It’s nothing but bare faced gamesmanship *Brinton Resto spits on his floor*

Imagine the person you’re trying to bully resorting to getting their own lawyer who uses gamesmanship. Unheard of evil!

If justice existed they would have come up against some loser like Patreeky who was scared of Brinton Resto and Rodney Halkias and did whatever they said straight away.
 

UnPRePared

For the last time, I am NOT Frank Grimes!
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I’m just being devils advocate but can’t SFWA argue they paid for their own lawsuit for their own interests protecting their members from fake bad reviews and Pat was just a conduit for it.

Though, it was Patrick’s case and he stood to win and he stood to lose, which he did, which is why this is occurring at all.

Has anyone ever been illicitly bankrolled to bring a civil case against someone, and then lost and then hidden backer was chased for the judgement since their conduit is a bum who could never pay it or start the case at all without them?

Then that very specific rare occurance, has it happened with a John Doe creditor using legal representation to claim it, with two cases and one domesticated across states to the state the debtor lives in and…. Oh what’s the point, obviously this is ground breaking faggotry in history.

Although he won, Hulk "BrotherDudeJack" Hogan was bankrolled by Peter Thiel of PayPal fame when he sued Gawker. And it wasn't a hidden secret either.

The fact that SFWA worked very hard to hide their ties to this, tells me there's many reasons for it. And I don't think any of them are a good look.
 

FurBurger

What would you do for a Klondike bar?
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I’m just being devils advocate but can’t SFWA argue they paid for their own lawsuit for their own interests protecting their members from fake bad reviews and Pat was just a conduit for it.
They're supposed to help their members, plural; not just one fat heffalump from Milwaukee.

Also, they already had backdoor access to delete Goodreads reviews, I believe before the LOLsuit started, and certainly before it fizzled out.

They can't just hand one of their friends money for a defamation suit and still claim to be a charity.

Has anyone ever been illicitly bankrolled to bring a civil case against someone, and then lost and then hidden backer was chased for the judgement since their conduit is a bum who could never pay it or start the case at all without them?
There have been attempts overseas to sue whoever's bankrolling a suit, when the loser has declared bankruptcy and can't pay the winner.

I don't know of a US case; but my heart would sing with joy if the first one was called "John Doe v Tomlinson".
 
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I really wish Quasi's lawyer would have asked for an immediate repo and Sheriff's auctioning of Fatso's motor scooter. It would barely put a dent in the debt, but at least it would be a giant bite out of Patrick's soul.
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"...bought specifically to embarrass and infuriate Harley riders."
 
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Is there any way pat can get a continuance or delay the hearing to a future date? This is going to be humiliating for him and niki.
I think he'd have to have a very compelling reason for it.

Reminder: Pat is already in contempt; this is just a hearing to determine what the penalty for that contempt will be. I don't think a judge would be likely to delay it.
 

NoBacon

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There's obviously a money component, you run out of money you can't keep going. You can try to do it yourself after that, but as a John Doe quasi can't do that.

These tactics are designed to wear people down. Rick probably got some advice from a guy who skipped out on a 1,200 credit card bill and well fargo gave up after a bit. Remember 1.2 brains can't distinguish nuiance. Most advice he would get is probably pre judgment. In the 1/100 that actually get a judgment its a default judgment, so the advice is that the debt isn't legitimate if you contest it. I can't imagine anyone was talking about court sanctions. The last nuance that piggy ignores is that this is an individual debt not a company. Companies have attornies and CFOs that should be impartial and not emotional. Its not personal its just business. If the cost benefit analysis says to drop it they will.

If quasi were smart he'd have framed this correctly from the start. He'd tell himself
"that this is going to take 20 years and anything less is just nice to have. Its likely too pat declares bankruptcy and I only get a small amount back."

In framing it that way you have the expectation that this drags on. You can take each specific loss or strategic retreat in the scope of the overall goal. Then the sfwa quash is annoying but you don't flip out and sell the debt for 5% like you retards suggested.

I suppose that quasi guy needs to keep having an internal battle between “basic risk to benefit analysis and sunk cost fallacy arguments versus heat death of the universe battle against a pig man”

Plus it’s just funny.
 

Slackjawed Cow

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Has anyone ever been illicitly bankrolled to bring a civil case against someone, and then lost and then hidden backer was chased for the judgement since their conduit is a bum who could never pay it or start the case at all without them?

Then that very specific rare occurance, has it happened with a John Doe creditor using legal representation to claim it, with two cases and one domesticated across states to the state the debtor lives in and…. Oh what’s the point, obviously this is ground breaking faggotry in history.
Not sure if this is the exact same situation but Id say Hulk Hogan vs. Gawker. He was apparently bankrolled by some super rich dude that was burned by gawker previously

edit: Looks like it was mentioned before I read the rest of the posts.
 
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It is yes. Which is why quasi had a right to subpoena the sfwa. It was quashed and he moved on to other avenues. Court decisions are decided by humans and they rule against you sometimes. You need to have several paths forward. Also why someone else is currently facing contempt, likely to avoid answering.
If Quasi had got the evidence to prove they financed the lawsuit would they be responsible for any of the money the Pig owes him.
 

WifeStoreWill

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In framing it that way you have the expectation that this drags on. You can take each specific loss or strategic retreat in the scope of the overall goal. Then the sfwa quash is annoying but you don't flip out and sell the debt for 5% like you retards suggested.

Dan probably would have bought it for 110%
 
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Patrick’s crack legal team of experts in 3 states that cost over 100,000 dollars never expected the crazy scenario of someone actually defending themselves using the law back.

Who could ever expect such a thing to happen?It’s nothing but bare faced gamesmanship *Brinton Resto spits on his floor*

Imagine the person you’re trying to bully resorting to getting their own lawyer who uses gamesmanship. Unheard of evil!

If justice existed they would have come up against some loser like Patreeky who was scared of Brinton Resto and Rodney Halkias and did whatever they said straight away.
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FurBurger

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Reminder: Pat is already in contempt; this is just a hearing to determine what the penalty for that contempt will be. I don't think a judge would be likely to delay it.
Ethically, he's in contempt; partly for abandoning his daughter, partly for being a cunt online, and partly for not paying Quasi.

Legally, he isn't in contempt until a judge says so.

He could potentially pull some bullshit to delay the hearing, but that would almost certainly be held against him when the hearing finally happens.
 
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