Atheist Hate Thread

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[Ladynyahh]

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Bill Nye is gay and faggot

 

[JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler]

All atheists aren't "rebelling against society". I don't believe because I don't have a reason to believe, and it doesn't affect my life either way.

The best way i've put it is in the Difference between agnostic and atheists
Agnostics say they don't believe because they don't see evidence of God's existence
Atheist say "God doesn't exist, because i'm an asshole"

the worst thing for these people is the internet. where you realize they are all disgusting turbo autists no one in their right mind would ever try to emulate.

 

[TehSamurai]

The best way i've put it is in the Difference between agnostic and atheists
Agnostics say they don't believe because they don't see evidence of God's existence
Atheist say "God doesn't exist, because i'm an asshole"

the worst thing for these people is the internet. where you realize they are all disgusting turbo autists no one in their right mind would ever try to emulate.

Theism is belief. Atheism is lack of belief. Gnosis is knowledge. Knowledge is justified, true belief. Someone who is agnostic lacks knowledge. One can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist, so your explanation is completely false.

I also don't know why claiming to know that God doesn't exist makes one an asshole, but claiming to know that God does exists doesn't make one asshole. I have never in my life had an atheist push his beliefs on me in every day life. Never has an atheist knocked on my door and tried to convince me that his beliefs were the right ones.

 

[Imager]

Theism is belief. Atheism is lack of belief. Gnosis is knowledge. Knowledge is justified, true belief. Someone who is agnostic lacks knowledge. One can be an agnostic atheist or an agnostic theist, so your explanation is completely false.

I also don't know why claiming to know that God doesn't exist makes one an asshole, but claiming to know that God does exists doesn't make one asshole. I have never in my life had an atheist push his beliefs on me in every day life. Never has an atheist knocked on my door and tried to convince me that his beliefs were the right ones.

I was atheist for a long time, probably due to all of the hypocrites I grew up around. It was merely a lack of believe. I wasn't "devout". To me it was that the simplest explanation is the most likely: When we die we die, and that's it.

If other people want to believe, great. If they say they're praying for me, I thank them. Very simple.

I never went in to reddit's atheist subforum but did stumble across a pajeet calling himself the "friendly atheist". I wasn't political (this was around 2010 or so) but after a few weeks of reading it was clear that pajeet was just complaining to complain. And apparently that pajeet went off the rails when Trump was elected wishing death on his voters and stuff. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.

I'm a believer now and I'll talk Jesus with anyone who wants to talk about him. I don't need to go do to door or anything like that, and besides, how many *Christians* do that? Percentage-wise, I'd guess it's a rounding error to 0%. Many Christians actually go and do nice things for other people in the world.

Nice try with the hate, tho.

The problem is that if you're around atheists for any period of time you see very quickly that the majority of them are faggots and pansies. Snowflakes who think that the world should bend around them.

In any case, once I realized that I'd much rather live in a society of puritanical Christians rather than a society of atheists, it was rather simple to believe in God. Be the change and all that.

The one thing I've never heard atheists meaningfully address is why human beings tend to flock towards religion. Many atheists will believe in magical economic theory, or socialism, or the tenets of Harry Potter. We have an ingrained need to worship something we see as better/bigger than ourselves. They can say God doesn't exist or what not, but they really have no answers to why the majority of people who have ever lived believed in God or Gods of some sort. And I've not seen very many of them, who apparently seek truth, really dig to find the answer to that one.

 

[TehSamurai]

Peop

I was atheist for a long time, probably due to all of the hypocrites I grew up around. It was merely a lack of believe. I wasn't "devout". To me it was that the simplest explanation is the most likely: When we die we die, and that's it.

If other people want to believe, great. If they say they're praying for me, I thank them. Very simple.

I never went in to reddit's atheist subforum but did stumble across a pajeet calling himself the "friendly atheist". I wasn't political (this was around 2010 or so) but after a few weeks of reading it was clear that pajeet was just complaining to complain. And apparently that pajeet went off the rails when Trump was elected wishing death on his voters and stuff. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.

I'm a believer now and I'll talk Jesus with anyone who wants to talk about him. I don't need to go do to door or anything like that, and besides, how many *Christians* do that? Percentage-wise, I'd guess it's a rounding error to 0%. Many Christians actually go and do nice things for other people in the world.

Nice try with the hate, tho.

The problem is that if you're around atheists for any period of time you see very quickly that the majority of them are faggots and pansies. Snowflakes who think that the world should bend around them.

In any case, once I realized that I'd much rather live in a society of puritanical Christians rather than a society of atheists, it was rather simple to believe in God. Be the change and all that.

The one thing I've never heard atheists meaningfully address is why human beings tend to flock towards religion. Many atheists will believe in magical economic theory, or socialism, or the tenets of Harry Potter. We have an ingrained need to worship something we see as better/bigger than ourselves. They can say God doesn't exist or what not, but they really have no answers to why the majority of people who have ever lived believed in God or Gods of some sort. And I've not seen very many of them, who apparently seek truth, really dig to find the answer to that one.

People are naturally superstitious, seeing meaning behind patterns that don't exist. Religion is also used as a tool to control others. Humanity leaning towards religion doesn't give your beliefs any more validity than they had before, especially considering how religions contradict each other.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

The best way i've put it is in the Difference between agnostic and atheists
Agnostics say they don't believe because they don't see evidence of God's existence
Atheist say "God doesn't exist, because i'm an asshole"

I don't believe in agnosticism. If you take the dictionary definition - someone who believes that if God exists, not enough hard information can be gathered from it - you take what that basically comes down to, and that's someone who says "I don't know." But nobody knows anything for sure anyway, you can only be more sure of something or claim to know something.

Either you believe in God, gods, or you do not. I also think that while an atheist may not functionally be a nihilist, you cannot divorce atheism from nihilism. A human with their perceived (and subjective) morality in a meaningless universe is, logically, a meaningless being in a meaningless universe. And, if the universe is not meaningless, then it either has awareness or awareness is behind it.

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

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I was a fan of Christopher Hitchens in my teenage years, and even he cringed at the idea of an organization calling themselves "The Brights".

 

[JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler]

I don't believe in agnosticism. If you take the dictionary definition - someone who believes that if God exists, not enough hard information can be gathered from it - you take what that basically comes down to, and that's someone who says "I don't know." But nobody knows anything for sure anyway, you can only be more sure of something or claim to know something.

Either you believe in God, gods, or you do not. I also think that while an atheist may not functionally be a nihilist, you cannot divorce atheism from nihilism. A human with their perceived (and subjective) morality in a meaningless universe is, logically, a meaningless being in a meaningless universe. And, if the universe is not meaningless, then it either has awareness or awareness is behind it.

I don't know, I think it's far to be an agnostic. to say "you know, I don't know. I don't believe it but i'll see evidence to the contrary."

 

[guest]

I just don't understand how people can look at the world around them and think it happened by accident/because we evolved from rocks somehow.

Look at our bodies. Look at the intricacies of all the systems inside of us -- the fact that we eat, and the food digests, and extracts the proper nutrients, and we shit out the excess. It's fucking insane. That didn't happen by accident.

If you deny that, then you're literally fucking insane. It's insane not to believe in God.

And then I've heard atheist faggots say something like, "oh.... sweety, no. It isn't that miraculous. Explain cancer then! If God made our "miraculous" bodies, why do our bodies get cancer?"

First of all, cancer is miraculous as well, it just sucks. And it doesn't even suck all the time. For example, it wouldn't suck if Jim Norton got it.

Second of all, that's like saying my computer didn't have a creator because it gets viruses.

Fucking dipshits, man. I hate atheists. And I hate Jim Norton, too.

 

[TehSamurai]

I just don't understand how people can look at the world around them and think it happened by accident/because we evolved from rocks somehow.

Look at our bodies. Look at the intricacies of all the systems inside of us -- the fact that we eat, and the food digests, and extracts the proper nutrients, and we shit out the excess. It's fucking insane. That didn't happen by accident.

If you deny that, then you're literally fucking insane. It's insane not to believe in God.

And then I've heard atheist faggots say something like, "oh.... sweety, no. It isn't that miraculous. Explain cancer then! If God made our "miraculous" bodies, why do our bodies get cancer?"

First of all, cancer is miraculous as well, it just sucks. And it doesn't even suck all the time. For example, it wouldn't suck if Jim Norton got it.

Second of all, that's like saying my computer didn't have a creator because it gets viruses.

Fucking dipshits, man. I hate atheists. And I hate Jim Norton, too.

That's just a shitty argument that's been repeated a trillion times by theists.

Here's something I don't get: if the Christian God exists (i.e., the omnipotent, omniscient god who wants everybody to believe he exists), why wouldn't he just convince non-believers that he exists? No, a book from millennia ago, written over hundreds of years, composed by committee, then translated and translated again, doesn't cut it.

Do any of the Christians here disagree with any of these premises:
1.) God exists?
2.) God wants US (i.e., you, me, and everybody else) to believe that he exists?
3.) God has the power to reveal himself to us?

If all of those are true, for what logical reason would God not reveal himself?

Here are some non-answers I got before and why they are bullshit:

God doesn't owe us anything.
"Owe" has nothing to do with it. If one accepts the premise that God wants us to believe, then he would therefore act to ensure that his wants are met.

God proving his existence is a violation of free will.
Proving something is not a violation of free will.

God already revealed himself.
Not to me, he didn't. And if he did, he stands absolutely nothing to lose from revealing himself again.

God's methods and reasoning can't be comprehended/one cannot know God.
That's a self-defeating argument. If one believes that God is unknown and unknowable, then they cannot assign all these human characteristics to him. That's a deistic claim instead of a Christian one.

If God exists, why would he need YOU to spread his word? If he chooses inefficient methods, he only has himself to blame when he gets inefficient results.

 

[guest]

That's just a shitty argument that's been repeated a trillion times by theists.

Here's something I don't get:

You just completely ignored my arguments, said "Nope. That's been answered before. I'm sorry you're so stupid" and then wrote a bunch of your own arguments for me to respond to like a little bitch. Do you have any idea how fucking annoying that is, and why people hate atheists now?

 

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More like the Shites movement. Amirite?

 

[sorchEDearth]

I just don't understand how people can look at the world around them and think it happened by accident/because we evolved from rocks somehow.

Look at our bodies. Look at the intricacies of all the systems inside of us -- the fact that we eat, and the food digests, and extracts the proper nutrients, and we shit out the excess. It's fucking insane. That didn't happen by accident.

If you deny that, then you're literally fucking insane. It's insane not to believe in God.

And then I've heard atheist faggots say something like, "oh.... sweety, no. It isn't that miraculous. Explain cancer then! If God made our "miraculous" bodies, why do our bodies get cancer?"

First of all, cancer is miraculous as well, it just sucks. And it doesn't even suck all the time. For example, it wouldn't suck if Jim Norton got it.

Second of all, that's like saying my computer didn't have a creator because it gets viruses.

Fucking dipshits, man. I hate atheists. And I hate Jim Norton, too.

Atheists play a simple game. It goes like this...

If I said Nothing created man in the last hour, you'd say "No fucking way."
If I said Nothing created man in the last decade, you'd say "Take your meds."
If I said Nothing created man in the past thousand years, you'd still say "Not bloody likely."
If I said Nothing created man in the last 100 million years, you'd say "Well...maybe."
If I said Nothing created man in the last 100 billion years, you'd say "Well... OK. Sure, I guess I can believe that."

And that's the trick. All the atheist does is simply keep backing up the timeframe for his argument until your finite mind disengages. It does so because our minds are incapable of fathoming the eternal. It's a cheat, but it works on rubes (which every "New Atheist" is).

Change a few of the rhetorical tools then you have the trick of any religious origin story as well. It's epistemological kick-the-can.

If "Nothing" can form it all logic goes out the window, also if it is eternal all logic goes out the window, and if it has a creator all logic goes out the window too...

“I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth.” - Umberto Eco

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

I don't know, I think it's far to be an agnostic. to say "you know, I don't know. I don't believe it but i'll see evidence to the contrary."

To me, that's just atheism, albeit open-minded. Atheists like Dawkins call themselves skeptics, but they are deliberately ignorant of anything outside of their purview, and they shoot down any idea that doesn't fit in with their movement.

Do any of the Christians here disagree with any of these premises:
1.) God exists?
2.) God wants US (i.e., you, me, and everybody else) to believe that he exists?
3.) God has the power to reveal himself to us?

If all of those are true, for what logical reason would God not reveal himself?

God proving his existence is a violation of free will.
Proving something is not a violation of free will.

If God did show up in some visible, physical form and said "see? I exist" it wouldn't exactly be some violation of free will, but it would eliminate the purpose of free will that humans engage in to better themselves. If you could just snap your fingers and get in great shape and become an expert in physics, there would be no need to workout our study. Nobody is born great, they have to learn and work hard to achieve greatness. Life sucks sometimes, but if life weren't a challenge at all, you'd kill yourself out of dullness.

Also, you're assuming that God has to come down to our level, or that he has to work in a way that's convenient for us. Why? You don't believe in God, but you believe in logic. Why? Logic itself isn't physical. There is no empirical, hard data to prove that logic exists. You cannot be more logical than logic itself. That's how God works, it says it in the book.

John 1:1
En arkhêi ên ho lógos, kaì ho lógos ên pròs tòn theón, kaì theòs ên ho lógos
In the beginning was the word, and the word was unto God, and the word was God.

"Word" = Logos = Logic.

If God exists, why would he need YOU to spread his word? If he chooses inefficient methods, he only has himself to blame when he gets inefficient results.

He doesn't need us for anything. Who said that?

 

[Stent]

I once had some young Koreans turn up at my door with a guitar to tell me about Jesus. As if he's saving them.

 

[analeggsalad]

>only took page 2 until the shift from mocking Epic atheists transitioned into seriously discussing this topic

 

[Riccardo Bosi]

>only took page 2 until the shift from mocking Epic atheists transitioned into seriously discussing this topic

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[CuckQueen]

I don't believe in agnosticism. If you take the dictionary definition - someone who believes that if God exists, not enough hard information can be gathered from it - you take what that basically comes down to, and that's someone who says "I don't know." But nobody knows anything for sure anyway, you can only be more sure of something or claim to know something.

Either you believe in God, gods, or you do not. I also think that while an atheist may not functionally be a nihilist, you cannot divorce atheism from nihilism. A human with their perceived (and subjective) morality in a meaningless universe is, logically, a meaningless being in a meaningless universe. And, if the universe is not meaningless, then it either has awareness or awareness is behind it.

Honest question, why would a God give the universe meaning? Just because he'd be the boss?

 

[Mc.Faggot]