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WWAWD James Bond movies?

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Jesse Ventura said:
I went through a time where I watched them all in a row because I was a 1 year old when Dalton did his movies and I only really saw the Brosnan ones and some of the Craig ones up until my teens or so.

I think both Dalton ones are good. He had a hardass Lee van Cleef kind of look to him. I liked how they went for a more hardcore action appeal as a contrast from the campy, tongue-in-cheek Moore era. Moore would be karate chopping guys and they’d be unconscious for 3 hours because Moore was uncomfortable with extreme violence. Old hack should have picked a new character to play if he cared but whatever. He was also ancient at the end of his run and it just looked stupid to have ol’ Granpappy Moore seducing all these women.

In License to Kill they had Felix Leiter get his legs eaten by sharks and then had Benicio del Toro say Leiter’s now dead wife had a very nice “honeymoooooooooooooooooooooon” after she was raped and killed. It was hilariously brutal for a Bond movie.

I will say I liked The Spy Who Loved Me quite a bit out of the Moore era and some of the ridiculous ones like The Man With The Golden Gun were fun in a zany kind of way. Christopher Lee is always a good villain even in shit movies.

Connery’s are great for the most part. Goldfinger always makes me laugh at the Fort Knox scene. A fat ass German in a stolen officer’s uniform with a gold pistol says “zey vent zat vay!” to the soldiers running by and nobody is like hey wait a minute who is that fat German with a non-standard issue pistol? Aren’t we looking for a fat German who loves gold?

When Connery shoots the scientist guy who makes a move for his gun in Dr. No and when he fights Robert Shaw in the train car in From Russia With Love are good examples of the ruthlessness lost in the Moore era and brought back under Dalton.

I do like Goldeneye still. Sean Bean is a good villain to me and I like a lot of the setpieces like the train and the satellite.

Craig I want to like more than I do. I thought Casino Royale was great except for the “Vesper Lind” love story shit. Predictable garbage that slowed the film down. Skyfall I thought they should have done more with Javier Bardem. Spectre was just a lost opportunity to make better use of Blofeld in his return. Quantum of Solace had maybe the worst plot and villain in Bond history and that’s saying a lot. The villain had the most generic name and the plot was to control water in a third world shithole. Just awful.

Lazenby’s was an ok entry but I really hated the constant wink and nods to the character of Bond rather just being Bond. He’s sitting there reading a playboy or something at one point. Because he can’t get enough of the sex! Bond would just have sex with whatever bimbo was at hand, there was no need to ham it up like that. Plus at the start of the movie he says something like “this never happened to the other fellow!” after a chick robs his car in the opening sequence. It was unnecessary to be self-referential and just made me realize he’s no Connery from the jump rather than letting the new guy grow on me. It did show another side to the Bond character though with the marriage storyline.
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You know what? I'm a fickle fuck and you reminding me of those scenes in Licence to Kill changed my opinion. It's good too. I also agree about the fourth wall break with Lazenby. It serves no purpose.


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Where we at with the Timothy Dalton? I like the Timothy Dalton to be perfectly honest witcha
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He's good. An underrated Bond.
 
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Patreeky said:
More like bathroom stinks, right? haha
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James Bond movies are for dentists/accountants who drive Jaguars, have had sex with 5 women and play golf once a week. Escapist fantasies for guys stuck in a rut. Bond never has to mow the lawn or do his taxes.
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The books are hilariously racist. I love British literature and Ian Fleming rules. The James Bond video games are so fucking good. I’m indifferent about the movies.
 
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Pepper Hicks Pepper Spray said:
"Puss Feller" is a truly great name. Dr. No definitely kept some of the racism.
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Pussy Galore is a funny name too. And the shaken not stirred thing is a joke because it’s supposed to be a stupid thing to request. Racism aside, Ian Fleming is an amazing writer and the books are great. One of my guilty pleasures is old British spy novels. I’m genuinely against the UK, Canadians, etc. but I have to give props when props are due.
 
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Jesse Ventura said:
I went through a time where I watched them all in a row because I was a 1 year old when Dalton did his movies and I only really saw the Brosnan ones and some of the Craig ones up until my teens or so.

I think both Dalton ones are good. He had a hardass Lee van Cleef kind of look to him. I liked how they went for a more hardcore action appeal as a contrast from the campy, tongue-in-cheek Moore era. Moore would be karate chopping guys and they’d be unconscious for 3 hours because Moore was uncomfortable with extreme violence. Old hack should have picked a new character to play if he cared but whatever. He was also ancient at the end of his run and it just looked stupid to have ol’ Granpappy Moore seducing all these women.

In License to Kill they had Felix Leiter get his legs eaten by sharks and then had Benicio del Toro say Leiter’s now dead wife had a very nice “honeymoooooooooooooooooooooon” after she was raped and killed. It was hilariously brutal for a Bond movie.



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I will say I liked The Spy Who Loved Me quite a bit out of the Moore era and some of the ridiculous ones like The Man With The Golden Gun were fun in a zany kind of way. Christopher Lee is always a good villain even in shit movies.

Connery’s are great for the most part. Goldfinger always makes me laugh at the Fort Knox scene. A fat ass German in a stolen officer’s uniform with a gold pistol says “zey vent zat vay!” to the soldiers running by and nobody is like hey wait a minute who is that fat German with a non-standard issue pistol? Aren’t we looking for a fat German who loves gold?

When Connery shoots the scientist guy who makes a move for his gun in Dr. No and when he fights Robert Shaw in the train car in From Russia With Love are good examples of the ruthlessness lost in the Moore era and brought back under Dalton.

I do like Goldeneye still. Sean Bean is a good villain to me and I like a lot of the setpieces like the train and the satellite.

Craig I want to like more than I do. I thought Casino Royale was great except for the “Vesper Lind” love story shit. Predictable garbage that slowed the film down. Skyfall I thought they should have done more with Javier Bardem. Spectre was just a lost opportunity to make better use of Blofeld in his return. Quantum of Solace had maybe the worst plot and villain in Bond history and that’s saying a lot. The villain had the most generic name and the plot was to control water in a third world shithole. Just awful.

Lazenby’s was an ok entry but I really hated the constant wink and nods to the character of Bond rather just being Bond. He’s sitting there reading a playboy or something at one point. Because he can’t get enough of the sex! Bond would just have sex with whatever bimbo was at hand, there was no need to ham it up like that. Plus at the start of the movie he says something like “this never happened to the other fellow!” after a chick robs his car in the opening sequence. It was unnecessary to be self-referential and just made me realize he’s no Connery from the jump rather than letting the new guy grow on me. It did show another side to the Bond character though with the marriage storyline.
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Dalton is the closest to the Bond of the books, physically and in terms of character performance. Fleming's Bond is not a suave bastard like Connery, Moore or Brosnan. He's a wolf. Vulpine in appearance and just a cold-blooded killer.

The earlier Fleming books are also hilariously racist. They're being rewritten now by the publishers, but get your hands on an old copy of Dr No or Live and Let Die. Fleming describes "Chingroes" - "half Chinaman/half negro and the ugliest people alive" or "Jamaican niggers with splayed nostrils and life jacket lips, prone to spastic movements and childish behaviours." The guy made his fellow 1950s upper class English people uncomfortable with his racism.
 
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Jesse Ventura said:
I went through a time where I watched them all in a row because I was a 1 year old when Dalton did his movies and I only really saw the Brosnan ones and some of the Craig ones up until my teens or so.

I think both Dalton ones are good. He had a hardass Lee van Cleef kind of look to him. I liked how they went for a more hardcore action appeal as a contrast from the campy, tongue-in-cheek Moore era. Moore would be karate chopping guys and they’d be unconscious for 3 hours because Moore was uncomfortable with extreme violence. Old hack should have picked a new character to play if he cared but whatever. He was also ancient at the end of his run and it just looked stupid to have ol’ Granpappy Moore seducing all these women.

In License to Kill they had Felix Leiter get his legs eaten by sharks and then had Benicio del Toro say Leiter’s now dead wife had a very nice “honeymoooooooooooooooooooooon” after she was raped and killed. It was hilariously brutal for a Bond movie.



Edit: adding in this link because it’s great.








I will say I liked The Spy Who Loved Me quite a bit out of the Moore era and some of the ridiculous ones like The Man With The Golden Gun were fun in a zany kind of way. Christopher Lee is always a good villain even in shit movies.

Connery’s are great for the most part. Goldfinger always makes me laugh at the Fort Knox scene. A fat ass German in a stolen officer’s uniform with a gold pistol says “zey vent zat vay!” to the soldiers running by and nobody is like hey wait a minute who is that fat German with a non-standard issue pistol? Aren’t we looking for a fat German who loves gold?

When Connery shoots the scientist guy who makes a move for his gun in Dr. No and when he fights Robert Shaw in the train car in From Russia With Love are good examples of the ruthlessness lost in the Moore era and brought back under Dalton.

I do like Goldeneye still. Sean Bean is a good villain to me and I like a lot of the setpieces like the train and the satellite.

Craig I want to like more than I do. I thought Casino Royale was great except for the “Vesper Lind” love story shit. Predictable garbage that slowed the film down. Skyfall I thought they should have done more with Javier Bardem. Spectre was just a lost opportunity to make better use of Blofeld in his return. Quantum of Solace had maybe the worst plot and villain in Bond history and that’s saying a lot. The villain had the most generic name and the plot was to control water in a third world shithole. Just awful.

Lazenby’s was an ok entry but I really hated the constant wink and nods to the character of Bond rather just being Bond. He’s sitting there reading a playboy or something at one point. Because he can’t get enough of the sex! Bond would just have sex with whatever bimbo was at hand, there was no need to ham it up like that. Plus at the start of the movie he says something like “this never happened to the other fellow!” after a chick robs his car in the opening sequence. It was unnecessary to be self-referential and just made me realize he’s no Connery from the jump rather than letting the new guy grow on me. It did show another side to the Bond character though with the marriage storyline.
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who the fuck is this Nat Hentoff nigga
 
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BonnieMcFarlaneMe2 said:
Pussy Galore is a funny name too. And the shaken not stirred thing is a joke because it’s supposed to be a stupid thing to request. Racism aside, Ian Fleming is an amazing writer and the books are great. One of my guilty pleasures is old British spy novels. I’m genuinely against the UK, Canadians, etc. but I have to give props when props are due.
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I've never read any, but I have an old, beat up paperback of Thunderball on my shelf. Stole it from a nut hut. I should read it.


Patreeky said:
Sarsaparilla, shaken not stirred haha
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Dalton is the closest to the Bond of the books, physically and in terms of character performance. Fleming's Bond is not a suave bastard like Connery, Moore or Brosnan. He's a wolf. Vulpine in appearance and just a cold-blooded killer.

The earlier Fleming books are also hilariously racist. They're being rewritten now by the publishers, but get your hands on an old copy of Dr No or Live and Let Die. Fleming describes "Chingroes" - "half Chinaman/half negro and the ugliest people alive" or "Jamaican niggers with splayed nostrils and life jacket lips, prone to spastic movements and childish behaviours." The guy made his fellow 1950s upper class English people uncomfortable with his racism.
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I forget which one where he goes into the black jazz club and. they’re doing literal jungle music and, “it smells like marijuana. Of course it does, where else?” Hilariously racist indeed.
 
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