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Today’s Court Hearing - Link & Live Discussion

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So is the SFWA denying that they helped pay for the lolsuit? So either Patrick or they are lying. Can't the court just ask Patrick or the SFWA under penalty of perjury what the truth and nothing but the truth is? If they helped him they're on the hook for debt fees. If not, then it's all on Fatty. Seems cut n dry. Why's this judge being such a cocksucker about it?
 
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Jerry is a stumbling, mumbling prick! We need @notalawyer as co-counsel!

Jerry did very well. This judge was just searching post hoc for reasons to quash this. It was extremely obvious. Jerry countered him several times. When the judge said it was hearsay to refer to the website, Jerry pointed out it was one of the numerous hearsay exceptions. Then the pro tem shifted the goalposts. Well its not hearsay, but you don't have conclusive evidence. The subtle move here was that the burden was shifted to Jen's side. All Jen had to do was show prima facie to avoid the sanctions. Just like Tomlinson had to show for quasi to defeat the sanctions. Except their own website showing it as a requirement is the prima facie. There were about 5 or 6 of these examples of the pro tem not having an answer and then moving the goalposts.
 
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So is the SFWA denying that they helped pay for the lolsuit? So either Patrick or they are lying. Can't the court just ask Patrick or the SFWA under penalty of perjury what the truth and nothing but the truth is? If they helped him they're on the hook for debt fees. If not, then it's all on Fatty. Seems cut n dry. Why's this judge being such a cocksucker about it?
See my post ^. He obviously has an agenda.
 

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See my post ^. He obviously has an agenda.
That's what confuses me. What's his agenda here? He got a dog in this fight?
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See my post ^. He obviously has an agenda.
Would it be a legitimate move to subpoena Brinton to find out if he was paid for his work by Patrick or the SFWA directly or does fall under client/lawyer confidentiality? I can't see the SFWA transferring that much $$$ to Fatso then trusting him to pay Brinton. I imagine they did it themselves.
 

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Jerry did very well. This judge was just searching post hoc for reasons to quash this. It was extremely obvious. Jerry countered him several times. When the judge said it was hearsay to refer to the website, Jerry pointed out it was one of the numerous hearsay exceptions. Then the pro tem shifted the goalposts. Well its not hearsay, but you don't have conclusive evidence. The subtle move here was that the burden was shifted to Jen's side. All Jen had to do was show prima facie to avoid the sanctions. Just like Tomlinson had to show for quasi to defeat the sanctions. Except their own website showing it as a requirement is the prima facie. There were about 5 or 6 of these examples of the pro tem not having an answer and then moving the goalposts.
Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for making me feel less crazy.
 
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