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Do you guys believe in the Occult, or Satanism?

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There is nothing supernatural. Just objects and circumstance.
What a boring way to live life. Nihilistic too.

You can remove God in the traditional sense but there remains an unfathomable realm of knowledge we will never be able to understand.

A small example - If we look at physics, can we explain quantum entanglement?

To call many of these mysteries supernatural may be laughed at, but I would argue the term works even in the absence of a God.
 

NoBacon

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What a boring way to live life. Nihilistic too.

You can remove God in the traditional sense but there remains an unfathomable realm of knowledge we will never be able to understand.

A small example - If we look at physics, can we explain quantum entanglement?

To call many of these mysteries supernatural may be laughed at, but I would argue the term works even in the absence of a God.

It simply makes no sense at all to believe everything exploded into being from nothing for no reason and nothing matters and everything that is reality is what we personally measure.

It ironically requires more faith than assigning the fruits of existence to a creator.

Also, the reason I was talking about DMT because I saw a trailer for a movie where some dude uses lasers and DMT to prove we’re in a simulation, sounds crazy but looks pretty good.

I 100% put my faith into scripture but if I didn’t, there’s overwhelming evidence consciousness isn’t local and this isn’t the “real” reality.
 

Turk February

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What a boring way to live life. Nihilistic too.

You can remove God in the traditional sense but there remains an unfathomable realm of knowledge we will never be able to understand.

A small example - If we look at physics, can we explain quantum entanglement?

To call many of these mysteries supernatural may be laughed at, but I would argue the term works even in the absence of a God.
It's the interaction of objects.
 

NoBacon

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The difference is, the wokies aren’t trolling. It’s just that the mask is now off.

I’m also not trolling, the Nazi’s were right about stuff and their fight was just, and “but this Nazi guy was a bad guy who did something selfish” is puerile and misses the point,
 

Jenna

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Except people like me have never denied it and I always cringed at trying to call the left Nazis.

It's horseshoe Tomlinson logic. When my side does it, it's harmless trolling. When their side does it, it means "the mask is off". and its their true intentions. Trust me, I alone understand how righteous and pure my political party is, and how every. last. member. of the other party is evil.
 

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It's horseshoe Tomlinson logic. When my side does it, it's harmless trolling. When their side does it, it means "the mask is off". and its their true intentions. Trust me, I alone understand how righteous and pure my political party is, and how every. last. member. of the other party is evil.
See, I actually agree with your point to an extent. It’s like you’re on the CUSP of getting it.
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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A guy in China puts a horn on a horse and calls it a unicorn. The pro-unicorn movement pounces on this and spreads the message to all non-believers that this proves unicorns exist. The unicorn is then (in the eyes of myself and many others) proven to be fake. Many people in the pro-unicorn movement say that's fake news, this unicorn is real.

Then Turry comes along and says that even though that unicorn might be faked, and all those other pro-unicorn people might be idiots, unicorns still exist. They just have the magic power to turn invisible so we can't see them. No, I don't have any examples of unicorns to show you, but I do have articles about people faking dinosaur bones.
Nobody's talking about unicorns and you conveniently left all of my points showing that you're ignorant of the topic unaddressed. WE DID IT REDDIT.

There are people who would meet the modern criteria for clinical depression in the new testament. Did they have demons cast out of them? Nope. They were healed. A lot of what we would class as personality disorders fall under the heading of sinful behaviour. Were these people exorcised? Nope. They were urged to repent. The adulterous woman was told to go and sin no more. The rich young man was told to give up his earthly possessions.

There were maybe three or four people in the Bible whose problem was identified as demonic in origin. Everyone else who was healed had some other malady. Portraying the church and the priesthood as if they just wandered around blaming everything on demons is lazy and ignorant of the text.
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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It simply makes no sense at all to believe everything exploded into being from nothing for no reason and nothing matters and everything that is reality is what we personally measure.
You can believe it but if you don't just blow your brains out to go back to the sweet embrace of nothingness you're choosing to believe in things like "meaning" and "purpose" that can't be found in the material world.

Basically the atheistic nihilist takes just as much on faith as the believer but their beliefs are completely ridiculous.
 

Jenna

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Nobody's talking about unicorns and you conveniently left all of my points showing that you're ignorant of the topic unaddressed. WE DID IT REDDIT.

There are people who would meet the modern criteria for clinical depression in the new testament. Did they have demons cast out of them? Nope. They were healed. A lot of what we would class as personality disorders fall under the heading of sinful behaviour. Were these people exorcised? Nope. They were urged to repent. The adulterous woman was told to go and sin no more. The rich young man was told to give up his earthly possessions.

There were maybe three or four people in the Bible whose problem was identified as demonic in origin. Everyone else who was healed had some other malady. Portraying the church and the priesthood as if they just wandered around blaming everything on demons is lazy and ignorant of the text.

So is your whole point just "demonic possession is in the Bible, therefore it exists"?
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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So is your whole point just "demonic possession is in the Bible, therefore it exists"?
No the main point I'm making is that you have no clue what you're talking about, your arguments are retarded and you're just a lazy smug prick who applies a standard to the supernatural that you won't apply in analogous circumstances to your sacred cows.
 
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