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Do you guys believe in the Occult, or Satanism?

T-t-t-Terry!

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I once saw a guy in Manhattan selling fake Rolexes on a street corner.

This forgery proves to me that Rolexes don't exist and wristwatches are a Jewish conspiracy. Wake up sheeple!
I once saw a documentary about an alleged demonic possession that turned out to be fake. Demons don't exist.

You and NB are the same guy spiritually.
 

NoBacon

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... I'm just lost and trying to find something or someone to help me break out of my shell...

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Jenna

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Oh wow I'm such a dummy for providing the very thing you claimed you wanted. @NoBaconesque queer

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There's one picture of the Loch Ness monster, which most think is fake.
There's one video of Bigfoot, which most think is fake.
There's like millions of dinosaur bones that have been excavated and sent to museums.

If we had one (and only one) set of dinosaur bones to base shit off of, and that one and only set was faked, then you'd have a point.

But many such bones exist, similar to how many Rolexes exist. So bringing up some fraudster who tried to profit off fake ones does not automatically prove all are fake.
 

Child..

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Every civilization has had its "dragon" myth...ours is the dinosaur. Still believing in shrieking giant bipedal reptiles in your adulthood is childish. You have no access to the dug up bones. Paleontology is a Guilded discipline. You are not in it. You dont know if they're capable of lies (you dont have the ability to debunk their claims...neither do I, but Im directed by macro-principles that haven't failed me while your principles keep failing you).
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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Founder, Owner, CEO and President of Missedthepoint.com.

There's one picture of the Loch Ness monster, which most think is fake.
There's one video of Bigfoot, which most think is fake.
There's like millions of dinosaur bones that have been excavated and sent to museums.

If we had one (and only one) set of dinosaur bones to base shit off of, and that one and only set was faked, then you'd have a point.

But many such bones exist, similar to how many Rolexes exist. So bringing up some fraudster who tried to profit off fake ones does not automatically prove all are fake.
Okay so one fake doesn't invalidate all the real ones. I agree. So your standard of "one fake invalidates all the other" is just bullshit IFLS masturbatory nonsense.
 

Jenna

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Every civilization has had its "dragon" myth...ours is the dinosaur. Still believing in shrieking giant bipedal reptiles in your adulthood is childish. You have no access to the dug up bones. Paleontology is a Guilded discipline. You are not in it. You dont know if they're capable of lies (you dont have the ability to debunk their claims...neither do I, but Im directed by macro-principles that haven't failed me while your principles keep failing you).


No access? You can literally buy them for $15 plus shipping and conduct whatever tests you want.
 

Child..

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No access? You can literally buy them for $15 plus shipping and conduct whatever tests you want.
What tests?
 

Jenna

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@Jenna is such a moron that he thinks I'm actually arguing against paleontology instead of using it to illustrate a point. Of course there's stuff in the ground that people dig up, stupit.

But it's not just one random instance. It's the example "demonologists" use to prove the existence of demonic possession. It's the only case of demonic possession to be argued in a US court. Mostly due to photographs and tape recordings of the "possession" that sound convincing.

The best example is debunked, and the second best example is "some German woman in the 1940s was speaking in tongues, the priests said so!"

I get why God would want to shield his existence from us mortals, but why is Satan so secretive? Why don't you possess some kid in Times Square, make him float in the air and twist his limbs all unhumanly? Funny how when the cameras are rolling, it always seems to be a kid making it up for attention.
 

Child..

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But it's not just one random instance. It's the example "demonologists" use to prove the existence of demonic possession. It's the only case of demonic possession to be argued in a US court. Mostly due to photographs and tape recordings of the "possession" that sound convincing.

The best example is debunked, and the second best example is "some German woman in the 1940s was speaking in tongues, the priests said so!"

I get why God would want to shield his existence from us mortals, but why is Satan so secretive? Why don't you possess some kid in Times Square, make him float in the air and twist his limbs all unhumanly? Funny how when the cameras are rolling, it always seems to be a kid making it up for attention.
This time next year...you will believe in demons.

Prepare for witnessing the most demonically possessed populace in recorded history, unleashed without their SSRI salves, when shit hit the fans. You will see what demonic possession looks like up close.
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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But it's not just one random instance. It's the example "demonologists" use to prove the existence of demonic possession. It's the only case of demonic possession to be argued in a US court. Mostly due to photographs and tape recordings of the "possession" that sound convincing.
So you've created a strawman based on one case that "demonologists" who aren't present in this thread use as their best case? Who fucking cares? Again I can just appeal to the numerous faked fossils that paleontologists used as their best case for the existence of hominid evolution and write off the whole thing using your standard.

"They argued it in court!" so what? Courts aren't how we determine whether or not supernatural entities are real. Neither is empiricism - anyone trying to measure the supernatural doesn't understand what they've tasked themselves with.

Hell, courts aren't how we determine truth even in the context that they were created for. "Beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't imply certainty, merely that it's the most reasonable conclusion based on the evidence that we have. I'm sure you'd agree that courts have ruled improperly on more than one occasion so applying your "muh court" standard I can just brush this aside as another one they got wrong.

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