WWAWD Wrestlemania 2023

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

Boomers and GenXers are force fed Snoop Dogg and Shaq.

I can understand Shaq because he seems harmless -- I don't agree but I can understand -- but Snoop Dogg? The Miz called him a "rapper" last night and I said "yeah 20 years ago". I don't remember the last album the guy put out but I can tell you he sells Hot Pockets.

At this point i dont think snoop is even seen as rapper to younger people. I think his last hit was early 2000s and maybe being on a song - not the main guy. He’s just “snoop dogg” who pops up everywhere

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

The Ray Mysterio match had his son acting a bit like Eddie Guerrero. And yes the latinos ate all that shit up. Another example of non-Whites banding together while Whites just can't do it.

Part of that being a hit there because it was in California, wouldn’t get that other places.

 

[HH Brother]

fag
also, tryhard nerd

I want to run you over with my car, funster.

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

Oh, I forgot one. They don't call the people attending the events "fans", no, they are referred to as "The WWE Universe"

I’m always surprised to see it be so big that it’s two nights and makes a ton of money. The RAW / Smackdown ratings aren’t what it used to be yet they seem to be making more money than ever.

 

[HR@PaneraBread]

I’m always surprised to see it be so big that it’s two nights and makes a ton of money. The RAW / Smackdown ratings aren’t what it used to be yet they seem to be making more money than ever.

TV money is only going one way. Their next deal with Fox or whoever bids will probably be approaching a billion. Their last one was close to 500m for 4/5 years. Raw moved to 3 hours and they knew it'd smudge the TV rating by diminishing the average over 3 hours instead of 2 but the extra money they got just to do it was enough.

Edit - when AEW started they put NXT on Wednesday to take viewers away and had to back off, they cared about ratings then but in the wider context of ad dollars, it's not that significant. Advertisers look at wrestling as low brow entertainment so they aren't going to spend money selling the new lexus to people watching Smackdown

 

[Queefer Sutherland]

I’m always surprised to see it be so big that it’s two nights and makes a ton of money. The RAW / Smackdown ratings aren’t what it used to be yet they seem to be making more money than ever.

The vast majority of it is from streaming and TV rights. The streaming gravy train is hitting serious problems right now. If Disney lost $5 billion on Disney+, how badly do you think Peacock is doing?

 

[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

TV money is only going one way. Their next deal with Fox or whoever bids will probably be approaching a billion. Their last one was close to 500m for 4/5 years. Raw moved to 3 hours and they knew it'd smudge the TV rating by diminishing the average over 3 hours instead of 2 but the extra money they got just to do it was enough.

That fox deal made the stock go from like 40 bucks to 90 overnight. Now they’re with the UFC in a combined 20 billion plus company.

 

[Queefer Sutherland]

TV money is only going one way. Their next deal with Fox or whoever bids will probably be approaching a billion. Their last one was close to 500m for 4/5 years. Raw moved to 3 hours and they knew it'd smudge the TV rating by diminishing the average over 3 hours instead of 2 but the extra money they got just to do it was enough.

Edit - when AEW started they put NXT on Wednesday to take viewers away and had to back off, they cared about ratings then but in the wider context of ad dollars, it's not that significant. Advertisers look at wrestling as low brow entertainment so they aren't going to spend money selling the new lexus to people watching Smackdown

Fox airs Smackdown. Raw and all WWE Network content are on Peacock.

Fox deal ends in 2024. Peacock ends in 2026. Endeavor is likely going to ask Fox for a massive price hike and they'll tell them to fuck off.

 

[HR@PaneraBread]

That fox deal made the stock go from like 40 bucks to 90 overnight. Now they’re with the UFC in a combined 20 billion plus company.

From a business perspective it's a smart play for WME. They essentially took out a hefty loan to buy UFC and the interest on that requires a few massive buy rates per year when big drawing fighters are becoming more rarified. ESPN have definitely shouldered some of the load but buying WWE would offset it tremendously. They both have streams of revenue that the other would kill for. UFC does the PPV numbers, WWE has a massive edge in merch and TV

 

[Queefer Sutherland]

Will the networks want to continue losing money to support the WWE? Strangest welfare case in entertainment history. Vince must supply them with pussy.

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[IGotATreeOnMyHouse85]

Will the networks want to continue losing money to support the WWE? Strangest welfare case in entertainment history. Vince must supply them with pussy.

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FOX to lose more than $150 million this year through deal with WWE to air SmackDown – Reports

If a recent report is anything to go by, FOX is incurring massive losses on their broadcasting deal with WWE SmackDown.

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Fox def overpaid for Smackdown, when they bought them they were trying to get as many live sporting - even sports entertainment - events since live sports are the only thing that still gets ratings compared to tv shows. I think Smackdown only gets like 2-2.5 million viewers on average.

 

[Queefer Sutherland]

Fox def overpaid for Smackdown, when they bought them they were trying to get as many live sporting - even sports entertainment - events since live sports are the only thing that still gets ratings compared to tv shows. I think Smackdown only gets like 2-2.5 million viewers on average.

It's a sad state of affairs when their flagship product (Raw) gets lower ratings because it's on cable. Vince really fleeced these dumb networks.

 

[DMAN]

Thanks for blessing his win tonight!

Wouldn't know, didn't watch.

 

[EraGodless]

At this point i dont think snoop is even seen as rapper to younger people. I think his last hit was early 2000s and maybe being on a song - not the main guy. He’s just “snoop dogg” who pops up everywhere

And he no doubt pops up late. I saw that motherfucker in concert two times (girlfriend wanted to go- plus lived in an area where pretty much no one of consequence ever toured). Nigga was late by 3 hours the first time and around 4 the second time. The whole concert venue was one big fucking weed cloud and we were packed like sardines. It wouldn't have taken much for a Great White type accident or Travis Scott/Astroworld type shit to go down.

Nigga never even apologized. Supposedly his tour bus was stopped both times because of weed- whatever happened there?