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WWAWD Trannies Killing Crackers In Nashville?

Sue Lightning

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In that case, there is no ambiguity. Are you a gun owner? You've been through a NICS check? Coming back to Chitown with a trunk full of glocks and dealing them to your boys definitely is not legal.
No but thats what I was trying to say. I just explained it poorly.

Guy A is purchasing the guns legally. He then moves them over state lines to sell so it becomes illegal. Then when Guy B buys the gun he gets it illegally. So it starts as legal but through action becomes illegal.

The Government or agencies have no way of tracking Guy B, the illegal gun owner, who buys these guns. But they (assumably) have some sort of way to track Guy A, the legal gun owner, who is traveling to another state he doesn’t live in to buy firearms.

So technically, even though the shooters are illegal gun owners, they obtained said guns from a legal gun owner who got them through a legal method. And how they were able to get these guns in the first place is from traveling to other states where they’re less restricted than their own.

Then back to my original point, there is literally no way to solve this without banning all guns which won’t work and which i dont agree with.

(Because I still don’t think i’m explaining myself correctly heres a retarded analogy. If I live in Utah and decide to start dealing drugs, I travel to California, buy pounds of weed legally, then bring it back to Utah and distribute it to my dealers so they can sell them. Yes, the act of selling the drugs is illegal. Me bringing them over a state border is illegal. But I obtained said drugs through a legal method.)
 

chocolatehellhole

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Then back to my original point, there is literally no way to solve this without banning all guns which won’t work and which i dont agree with.
There are more guns than people, even if they were banned.. we're at a point where single use 3D printed guns are 100% feasible and can be easily destroyed with no record.
I travel to California, buy pounds of weed legally, then bring it back to Utah and distribute it to my dealers so they can sell them. Yes, the act of selling the drugs is illegal. Me bringing them over a state border is illegal. But I obtained said drugs through a legal method.
You can go to Somalia and buy a 9 year old wife that isn't menstruating. As soon as you bring her back to the states, you're in violation of several laws in whatever state on top of federal charges. Truly legal gun owner deaths caused are mostly suicides. Punching out.
 

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The problem like everything else in the US isn’t so much a lack of laws, although that contributes, but loopholes. Like look at the guy who shot up the places in Maine. Legal gun owner, former veteran with PTSD, debilitating mental health, police reports about all this, and no one did shit about him. It makes you completely understand the conspiracy about 3 letter agencies making these guys as false flags because the only other explanation is complete incompetency .
Using a CIA glownigger as an example doesn't really help your argument.

I don't think we need background checks or anything like that. We need a fully armed society allowed to conceal carry. Remember in like 2019 that dude busted into a church in Texas with an AR-15 or something, got 3 kills in and was then shot in the head?

If everywhere was like that, you wouldn't have these shootings. Even in this case where this bitch wanted the cops to shoot her. Just probably would have offed herself instead.
 

Sue Lightning

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Using a CIA glownigger as an example doesn't really help your argument.

I don't think we need background checks or anything like that. We need a fully armed society allowed to conceal carry. Remember in like 2019 that dude busted into a church in Texas with an AR-15 or something, got 3 kills in and was then shot in the head?

If everywhere was like that, you wouldn't have these shootings. Even in this case where this bitch wanted the cops to shoot her. Just probably would have offed herself instead.
The problem with the “everyone needs to be armed” argument, while I instinctually agree with it is, is the fact that it also does not work. There is a psychological phenomenon (which i’m forgetting the name of) which basically makes it so that witnesses to a crime are less likely to intervene. There are hundreds if not thousands of cases where terrible things have happened while a witness, witnesses, or armed witnesses stood by and did nothing.
 

Faggot Boqposter

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Using a CIA glownigger as an example doesn't really help your argument.

I don't think we need background checks or anything like that. We need a fully armed society allowed to conceal carry. Remember in like 2019 that dude busted into a church in Texas with an AR-15 or something, got 3 kills in and was then shot in the head?

If everywhere was like that, you wouldn't have these shootings. Even in this case where this bitch wanted the cops to shoot her. Just probably would have offed herself instead.
Ideally there would be background checks and licensing required but the people on the gun restriction side do not negotiate in good faith. They’re not going to stop until they ban guns.

And considering our government is moving more towards some corrupt South American autocracy than back to a proper republican government, I don’t trust these cocksuckers with any prohibitions. But I’m quite sure that high priced private security firms will always be able to buy and carry whatever weapons they want
 

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The problem with the “everyone needs to be armed” argument, while I instinctually agree with it is, is the fact that it also does not work. There is a psychological phenomenon (which i’m forgetting the name of) which basically makes it so that witnesses to a crime are less likely to intervene. There are hundreds if not thousands of cases where terrible things have happened while a witness, witnesses, or armed witnesses stood by and did nothing.
It's called "The Bystander Effect."

And even if you're right (and I'm not sure you are), it's better than being completely defenseless.

One thought that I have that is more on your side of things here is that many Americans are morons and they would not always respect the safety aspect of carrying a gun.

Still, I think that's better than having people, including kids, being sitting ducks. You arm some teachers in the schools, and those kids have a chance.

And we're so far down the slippery slope that the real question is why didn't this shit happen 100 or 200 years ago? But we can't even address that until we stop the bleeding on this. So yeah, right now, I can't think of a better solution than everyone being allowed to CC.
 

Sue Lightning

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It's called "The Bystander Effect."

And even if you're right (and I'm not sure you are), it's better than being completely defenseless.
See this is the thing though, we’re operating on a basis of two extremes instinctually: Either everyone is armed or no one is armed. I’m not saying no one should be armed. I’m saying we should try to regulate crazy people from getting guns. I get the whole slippery slope concept and maybe it’s my naiveté but there has to be some vetting process beyond a background check, have it constricted to potentially violent mentally ill people, and then not have it be a domino to infringe on more rights regarding guns. And to be fair that is harder than having everyone armed or not.
One thought that I have that is more on your side of things here is that many Americans are morons and they would not always respect the safety aspect of carrying a gun
And this is an even bigger point. As others have pointed out not only is a lot of “gun violence” majorly concentrated towards blacks but just average murders and suicides / accidents as well. For child gun violence a majority of its incidents are children shooting themselves in the head with their parents gun on accident, not being shot in a school. Then thats a larger angle to the wider school shootings no one talks about. Most of these kids are obtaining these guns through their parents. The only solution there is to first of all probably not have guns in the house if your child is insane and then a wider public safety campaign on guns which are treated like common objects when they’re not in utility.
Still, I think that's better than having people, including kids, being sitting ducks. You arm some teachers in the schools, and those kids have a chance.
Arming teachers is retarded. When I was in high school we had two cops at our school everyday. Some of them were parked outside as well. Now granted I did live in a good county but theres so many problems with the idea of arming teachers.

Public trust in teachers has eroded after the gender bullshit. Teachers already feel overwhelmed / underpaid / mistreated and now have to take firearm glasses and have a gun: How many of them will commit suicide, commit a work place shooting themselves, kill a student, anything? How many teachers will be qualified or comfortable with being armed at all times, especially with (assumably) no pay raise that comes with that responsibility.

Then this isn’t even getting into the logistics of a hypothetical school shooting . If we place the shooter in his class pulling a gun from his backpack, can the teacher then go to unlock and or open the gun cabinet, then load the gun and fire it at them? So then the solution would be to have everybody open carry in classrooms. This makes even less sense. There was 100% people strong enough at my high school to overpower a teacher and grab their gun. Now this gets into “But if everyone was armed no one would want to do that” which frankly doesn't make sense either. To me it’s like saying the death penalty is deterrent to crime. Its not. If people are crazy enough to commit horrific acts like killing children then they’re crazy enough to die. See any mass shooter who would have killed more people but failed ala Elliot Rodgers.
 

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Still, I think that's better than having people, including kids, being sitting ducks. You arm some teachers in the schools, and those kids have a chance.

I know what you mean by “some teachers” but I can’t help but laugh about the other thread going on here where everyone is in agreement that teachers can’t balance a checkbook let alone protect the lives of others.
 

Leonard Rhomberg

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That’s another part of it - so many of these shooters were already known to be an issue to law enforcement / police record / multiple red flags then it’s a big surprise when they do something. Especially now with social media you can do some looking around and these types will TELL YOU they’re nuts and should be on a list. But somehow they just fall through - go nuts - and it’s same old song and dance. Plus it’s clear you’ve got politicians that love to use “never let a crisis go to waste” to use dead kids to get THEMSELVES attention to help whatever future campaign / party / elections when they’re all talk on both sides. We’ve had major school shootings since Clinton and we’re pretty much still at the same place.

I think it was Jessie Ventura who said the majority of politics is just like pro wrestling - you got people from different parties yelling / complaining / insulting each other in front of the cameras / press then at night all go out together to fancy dinners together at expensive restaurants and laugh about it all. Can’t break kayfabe!
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Then this isn’t even getting into the logistics of a hypothetical school shooting . If we place the shooter in his class pulling a gun from his backpack, can the teacher then go to unlock and or open the gun cabinet, then load the gun and fire it at them?
Maybe no in that class, but the next class over that hears the shots, yes. Then an announcement on the intercom that there's a code 57 and the teachers know what to do.

So then the solution would be to have everybody open carry in classrooms.
This is the weakness of Internet forums. No one was arguing for open carry in classrooms and I've just shown how it's not necessary.

This makes even less sense. There was 100% people strong enough at my high school to overpower a teacher and grab their gun.
Only if they aren't ready with the gun locked and loaded to begin with.
Now this gets into “But if everyone was armed no one would want to do that” which frankly doesn't make sense either. To me it’s like saying the death penalty is deterrent to crime. Its not. If people are crazy enough to commit horrific acts like killing children then they’re crazy enough to die. See any mass shooter who would have killed more people but failed ala Elliot Rodgers.
I get what you're saying and even acknowledged that a bit -- but my main point is lowering the killed/wounded count for any given school shooting.

So yeah you can't stop crazy, but you can sure the fuck slow it down, and you and I probably actually care more about this than most of our politicians. No one with any power wants to actually solve this problem and in real life I constantly call people out who say we just have to give up our guns/rights to prevent this. It's just ignorant.
 

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That’s another part of it - so many of these shooters were already known to be an issue to law enforcement / police record / multiple red flags then it’s a big surprise when they do something. Especially now with social media you can do some looking around and these types will TELL YOU they’re nuts and should be on a list. But somehow they just fall through - go nuts - and it’s same old song and dance. Plus it’s clear you’ve got politicians that love to use “never let a crisis go to waste” to use dead kids to get THEMSELVES attention to help whatever future campaign / party / elections when they’re all talk on both sides. We’ve had major school shootings since Clinton and we’re pretty much still at the same place.

I think it was Jessie Ventura who said the majority of politics is just like pro wrestling - you got people from different parties yelling / complaining / insulting each other in front of the cameras / press then at night all go out together to fancy dinners together at expensive restaurants and laugh about it all. Can’t break kayfabe!
I think the government should be handing out pistols to every normie tax payer it would seriously make people more polite and reduce crime I live in a small town like 4500 people nearly everyone is armed and reading the local paper no crime besides maybe vandalism by kids
 

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Now the conservafags get to high five for a change? Who gives a shit? Right wingers have firmly established their spot as unhinged emotional pussies. If right wingers just owned their faults, you could at least respect them. But nah, it's always persecution fetish and the libs' fault. Their websites are trash, too. Always clogged with CAPS LOCK and scammy DOCTORS HATE THIS ONE TRICK! ads. Bunch of Cumias all up in this mug.
 

LingerLonger

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And we're so far down the slippery slope that the real question is why didn't this shit happen 100 or 200 years ago?
Because niggers and spics couldn't own guns until after WWII. Nearly all gun crime is from niggers, spics, muslism, or mentally ill faggots and trannys and other weirdos. If they didn't have access to guns, or access to White nations, this wouldn't be a problem.
 

Easily_Remembered

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Now the conservafags get to high five for a change? Who gives a shit? Right wingers have firmly established their spot as unhinged emotional pussies. If right wingers just owned their faults, you could at least respect them. But nah, it's always persecution fetish and the libs' fault. Their websites are trash, too. Always clogged with CAPS LOCK and scammy DOCTORS HATE THIS ONE TRICK! ads. Bunch of Cumias all up in this mug.
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Also, Cumia is NOT a conservative despite his LARPing.
 
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