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Why wasn’t Pat a member of the SFWA until before he filed the lawsuit?

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KissesCumia said:
Tweets can absolutely be used as corresponding evidence, the burden of proof will be on the SFWA to prove Mary Three Names, President of the SFWA, was twitter lying about Patrick rejoining the organization.

Real court isn't The People's Court, where racists can get away with "I didn't tweet that. I didn't tweet that either. That is a manipulated imagur." You can't just go tee hee the SFWA President was lying, take our word for it and have the judge co-sign.
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You can say “I was lying in order to help further my image, and help boost the SFWA’s image.” Twitter will never be primary evidence. There are too many variables involved. They can use it to demonstrate a timeline, maybe. They’re not going to walk in sand say “Here’s the evidence we need.”. What if he’s lying, as I said, and the SFWA has membership dues the entire time? That’s the evidence. Twitter will not come up, unless it’s examples of him spending money. The SFWA aren’t going down because of Ricks stupid tweets. Just like us, his words don’t bind his chains. His retarded actions do.
 
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Well they did award the Hugo to Aunt Jemima 3 years in a row, given Pat's stance on "the community" he probably wasn't a big fan:

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After 3 names gave it to herself, he deemed the organization worthy enough to rejoin. Chilling stuff
 
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Gay Faggot. said:
You can say “I was lying in order to help further my image, and help boost the SFWA’s image.” Twitter will never be primary evidence. There are too many variables involved. They can use it to demonstrate a timeline, maybe. They’re not going to walk in sand say “Here’s the evidence we need.”. What if he’s lying, as I said, and the SFWA has membership dues the entire time? That’s the evidence. Twitter will not come up, unless it’s examples of him spending money. The SFWA aren’t going down because of Ricks stupid tweets. Just like us, his words don’t bind his chains. His retarded actions do.
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For now, the only issue on the docket is if Jerry Jen is legally allowed to access SFWA's correspondence with Patrick. The SFWA is trying to quash Jen's subpeona by basically saying "none of your beeswax".

Much like the Pena vs. Stavros trial, if no agreement is reached both cases will go before a judge (pro tem) and argue their positions. Demonstrating that either the President of the SFWA is lying on twitter, or opposing counsel is lying in court documents, it lends credence to the SFWA acting suspiciously, and supports Jen's position to subpoena their correspondence with Pat.
 
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KissesCumia said:
For now, the only issue on the docket is if Jerry Jen is legally allowed to access SFWA's correspondence with Patrick. The SFWA is trying to quash Jen's subpeona by basically saying "none of your beeswax".

Much like the Pena vs. Stavros trial, if no agreement is reached both cases will go before a judge (pro tem) and argue their positions. Demonstrating that either the President of the SFWA is lying on twitter, or opposing counsel is lying in court documents, it lends credence to the SFWA acting suspiciously, and supports Jen's position to subpoena their correspondence with Pat.
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Fair enough. I was looking at it more broad, which I think is what’s going on here. I’d imagine if it gets that far, Jerry Jen isn’t just relying on Twitter though.
 
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PennystockChaser said:
We have the Josiah tapes, I would love for that shit to be played in a courtroom. My ribs will never heal
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The judge having to rule against Rick, even though he thinks we’re bullying a retard would be great.

“After hearing all the tapes, this is a tough decision to make. I will side with the law but, this in no ways is me condoning the bullying of this mentally deficient man. I hope he gets the help he needs after this ruling.”
 
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Ego. There's some bullshit tweet about how he rejoined and his method was to take over the controls.
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I think that was in reference to Goodreads, i.e. "I asked them to give me manual control of reviews under my books." Which is an insane ask.

That tweet was a response to Cat Rambo replying to his OP which said something about they had lost their way or something but were now under new leadership - this is interesting to me. Even after they agree to help with Goodreads, he still insults them on Twitter rather than thanking them. There's some tension there that needs to be picked at.
 
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I don’t get how Jen is supposed to know if Rick or SFWA actually give him what he asked for. How could he find out if they just send him a bunch of worthless emails and delete the incriminating ones?
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How is that different than any other discovery process? You're basically asking "what if the mafia accountant sends us a fake set of books and destroys the only real copy"
 
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Just step through the process hypothetically

  • SFWA says we didn't fund the lawsuit we had no involvement
  • Eventually Rick gets to a debtor's exam
  • Attorney asks, "How were you able to fund the lawsuit"
Now you're at an inflection point. If Rick lies, then he'll need to produce the method he funded 150k plus. He says, " a friend gifted it". Ok, then you ask, "who was it, what account was used, what are the dates etc."

If he tells the truth then whoever responded from the SFWA committed perjury.
 
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One possible way around it could be to have an "allegedly", satirical, hypothetical, in Minecraft mama raven situation. And play a shell game with donations and gifts etc. Which would normally work if it were a 5k credit card debt. I have a feeling, though, at this point quasi would just keep tracing through each filling.
 
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ThePaulRNelsonnReturns said:
I think that was in reference to Goodreads, i.e. "I asked them to give me manual control of reviews under my books." Which is an insane ask.

That tweet was a response to Cat Rambo replying to his OP which said something about they had lost their way or something but were now under new leadership - this is interesting to me. Even after they agree to help with Goodreads, he still insults them on Twitter rather than thanking them. There's some tension there that needs to be picked at.
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No fucking way... The fat insecure faggot wanted to be able to pick and choose his own reviews????! 😂 😂 😂 😂 Fucking hell!
That's MENTAL....
I've two accounts there for a while and every few days I review books I've already read and am working my way towards In the Black and that awful, D list Rick and Morty shite Starship Repo(where the genius came up with Firstname Last name... Which isn't even original... Angelas Ashes published in 97 talks about how drunk his father was so the clerk put down 'Male' as the child's name) I won't make pat posting jokes but I'm going to be honest as I can about the books and see what happens.
 
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How is that different than any other discovery process? You're basically asking "what if the mafia accountant sends us a fake set of books and destroys the only real copy"
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Yeah I don’t know. I imagine it’s different when the government subpoenas you because they can just bust in and take your shit if you don’t give it up or they think you’re lying but in a civil case with 2 civilians I don’t know how they enforce it.
 
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ThePaulRNelsonnReturns said:
I think that was in reference to Goodreads, i.e. "I asked them to give me manual control of reviews under my books." Which is an insane ask.

That tweet was a response to Cat Rambo replying to his OP which said something about they had lost their way or something but were now under new leadership - this is interesting to me. Even after they agree to help with Goodreads, he still insults them on Twitter rather than thanking them. There's some tension there that needs to be picked at.
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That stood out to me as well, he left because they probably wouldn’t make him the head of the SFWA as they “lost their way” (quit in protest) only to say they’ve finally got it right after they agreed to fund his case. Mary 3 names even replied that they were glad to have him back n which doesn’t help the case.
 
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