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What was Patrick expecting the police to do?

FurBurger

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Do we know what the caller even told the police? There was a shooting? An unstable person with gun?
Technically, no. Pat's claimed someone called in pretending to be him and claiming to have shot his wife... but he's also claimed to be a martial artist, marathon runner, successful professional author and to have fought off multiple cops trying to handcuff him, so.....

Hopefully Josiah's FOIA'd the original call, too.
 

Riccardo Bosi

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Yeah, they do. They're responding to a shooting. If Pat's the shooter, they need to get him into cuffs and out of the house (and away from any weapons). If he's not the shooter, they need to get him out of the house anyway; and if they're not sure, they need him in cuffs in case he turns out to be the shooter and e.g. grabs a cop's gun.
And if there was no shooting at all (for example), then what business did they have pulling a person out of their house?


We allow the police to infringe on people's human rights for the good of society. That's not just the standard here, it's the standard around the world. Every country in the world allows police to stop people while they're travelling - infringing that human right - and question what they're up to. Every country in the world allows police to handcuff and imprison people.

If Pat had have been living in the most socialist, left-wing country in Scandinavia and the police got a tip-off there was an active shooter in his house he would have been treated the same way; although he'd likely be Baker Acted after his outburst in countries with decent mental healthcare.

The use of force by the state is always going to look ugly, but that doesn't mean it's always wrong.

(You might find Donut Operator's channel useful. He's an ex-SWAT officer who breaks down police incidents, explaining why they act the way they act. You don't have to agree with his politics - I sure as shit don't - but he'll change your mind on police stuff. Wonder why police don't just tase/capstun people? He's got video of a guy holed up in a hotel room with a knife, who shrugs off a couple of tasers, some capstun, and then I think bean-bag round number eight finally slows him enough the police can swarm him. Wonder why cops are so quick to shoot armed bad guys? He's got video of a copy who doesn't, and just follows a suspect down the street until the suspect takes an old guy hostage. How about those Armoured Personnel Carriers that were so controversial after the Ferguson shooting? Etc.)
I'm not even gonna argue mainly because I'm sleepy and like I said, I don't know what I'm talking about... but just so we all know, we should keep in mind that the cops who we're talking about in this situation are just like Pat: Milwaukeean pants-shitting retards. I'm not defending these pieces of shit any more after what we've seen from the COVID fiasco. They're idiots with more rights than they deserve, and for the most part they're not a moral people.
 

FurBurger

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And if there was no shooting at all (for example), then what business did they have pulling a person out of their house?
I literally explained that in the sentence you quoted.

I'm not even gonna argue mainly because I'm sleepy...
<goes on to argue>

Get some sleep, and when you wake up re-read what I said - I think it'll make more sense in the morning.
 

PeteRose

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Since the incident, we've all been laughing at the audio, picking out the best parts etc. But can we just take a minute to acknowledge how fucking unreasonable this swine was being with the police?

I've seen people like Null take his side and say that he was rightfully angry at the police for doing what they did but why? He was so irate because the officers who showed up to his half hovel weren't aware of his story but what difference would that have made? They'd still have to treat it like a real incident, even if they're aware there's a good chance it's a hoax. Did he actually expect them to call him first?

MPD: "Hello Mr Tomlinson?"

Rick: "Yes, child. Speaking"

MPD: "Sir it's MPD. We just received a phone call saying you've shot your wife. Just wanted to check that's not actually the case"

Rick: "No, child. I did noT shoot my wife. You've simply been pranked again. Do you know how many times I've told YOOOOOOOOUUUUUU that's what's happening???."

MPD: "OK, sir. We can definitely take your word for it that she's not dead right?"

Rick: "You didn't lisTen. I just said I didn't shoot her. now HANG UP!! NEVER CALL THIS HOUSE AGAIN!!!!!!

MPD: "....."
what happens if the swatting was real. and they trace it to europe? will interpol extradite? like what does rick expect to happen? what if this was from the south pacific?

hello interpol, they are making fun of my dead lizard again today. They are pretending to be me on contact forms again durrr. it stops when you close your snout for a bit and not a moment sooner.
 

Riccardo Bosi

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I literally explained that in the sentence you quoted.


<goes on to argue>

Get some sleep, and when you wake up re-read what I said - I think it'll make more sense in the morning.
The cops are niggers with permits to do what they want, and that's wrong.

I mean, if you think they have a right to snatch people out their homes because of "terrorism" then you're absolutely absurd.

You live in a country, I live in a country, where gay disease-ridden sex is tolerated. Tolerated. But you're allowed to snatch a person out their house because MAYBE a gun went off.

And fucking Leiah walks around with her Bret Hart hair smoking ciggies... the absolute injustice.
 

LockedHDD__Pot

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The cops are niggers with permits to do what they want, and that's wrong.

I mean, if you think they have a right to snatch people out their homes because of "terrorism" then you're absolutely absurd.

And fucking Leiah walks around with her Bret Hart hair smoking ciggies... the absolute injustice.
I agree with you so much... but listening to Rick act like a mental patient (even once the situation is no-longer emergent) makes me think there should be at least a clause to follow-up with a simple psych' evaluation... this guy flashes guns on twitter & consders(/d) himself at-war with 50% of his countrymen. Also threatened to neutralize a 13yr old who said the word 'Fatrick' in a public place.

Stop making me defend the cops for fuck sakes!
 

Riccardo Bosi

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I agree with you so much... but listening to Rick act like a mental patient (even once the situation is no-longer emergent) makes me think there should be at least a clause to follow-up with a simple psych' evaluation... this guy flashes guns on twitter & consders(/d) himself at-war with 50% of his countrymen. Also threatened to neutralize a 13yr old who said the word 'Fatrick' in a public place.

Stop making me defend the cops for fuck sakes!
Let me be clear: we all know, especially after his outburst, that Rick needs a psych evaluation. Him and his wife are on prescription meds (which are dangerous but legal) and they mix that with guns (dangerous but legal).

This is beyond the cops' jurisdiction because they too are just pigs in uniform. The Tomlinsons and Robinsons of this world need therapy, not policing.

There's an old Russian saying, probably by Dostoevsky: just because it's funny that one fat man got dragged out of his house half-naked, doesn't mean there should be a precedent for it to happen to anybody else. Okay, I just made that up, but it stands true. ACAF, All Cops Are Faggots. They had no reason to be there, however funny the audio (and the video soon) is.
 

LockedHDD__Pot

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Him and his wife are on prescription meds
I doubt he takes meds himself, I'm sure he considers his own mind to be perfect (everyone else is wrong or inferior). I'm sure he coaches Niki through taking her dum-dum pills as part of a control mechanism, knowing she'd leave if she thought clearly for more tan a few seconds.

I do worry about him flipping-out (& us getting the blame); my mother was schizo & thought she heard neighbours/strangers saying odd stuff, but luckily all she had was weird letters to send... If she had a gun, I would've removed it from her.

I don't wanna spoil any fun... so let's hope no innocents get caught in the crossfire when Rick flips. I want his stupidity to continue indefinitely!
 

Slackjawed Cow

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Pat spends a lot of twitter time demanding or telling people they are going to prison. From the president down to people that just have a different stance on a topic. Pat thinks the police/justice system is his personal army/weapon that will punish his foes. Then when pat has to deal with the police or a judge he loses nad gets so mad because they didnt take his word for it. So he has a meltdown calling everyone else but him an idiot.


He is not smart. Some might say "husky"
 

Meownaw

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I think it was Nikki. Who else knew she'd be out of town, and so Pat wouldn't be able to bring her to the door and show the cops that she was alright?


As he states in the audio, he's called them dozens of fucking times about this shit. If he hadn't called them two weeks ago about it then it would have been four weeks or five weeks.
He then refers in the bloated tweet thread that he received this exact threat via text/voice mail and called it in 2 weeks ago. Something smells fishy.
 

DrTorqueCarlisi

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Word on the street is that the commissioner has established a hotline directly to Rick. There's a big red phone on his desk that no one else is allowed to touch, and every time any crime is commiTTed on that street, the commish goes straight for the red phone to ask if it's okay to investigate.

And if permission to send officers is granted, it's his job to also make sure to hold back the six who've been told to never return, no matter how badly they may be needed in a crisis.
 

DrTorqueCarlisi

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What was Patrick expecting the police to do?


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Libby Son Of Loin

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Reminder: Pat thinks he's a super strong and healthy 6'1'' adult male. He was probably trying to provoke them into using a taser, under the delusion that he's not fat to the point a taser will actually kill him. But at a simple glance, they see he's a fat fuck who's heart is going to explode the second those volts start coursing through his greasy veins, so they exercised proper judgement and tackled him down.
 

Udders

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Let me be clear: we all know, especially after his outburst, that Rick needs a psych evaluation. Him and his wife are on prescription meds (which are dangerous but legal) and they mix that with guns (dangerous but legal).

This is beyond the cops' jurisdiction because they too are just pigs in uniform. The Tomlinsons and Robinsons of this world need therapy, not policing.

There's an old Russian saying, probably by Dostoevsky: just because it's funny that one fat man got dragged out of his house half-naked, doesn't mean there should be a precedent for it to happen to anybody else. Okay, I just made that up, but it stands true. ACAF, All Cops Are Faggots. They had no reason to be there, however funny the audio (and the video soon) is.
Someone has to deal with the dregs of society. Cops aren't perfect, some are pieces of shit. Just like every other group of people.
 
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