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T-t-t-Terry!

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Lol now I know you're a fucking idiot. Nobody ever said the new testament was in the dead sea scrolls. Why are you bringing it up against Jesus?
I've got to double down here because it really needs to be highlighted that this faggot is saying they found fragments of the Pentateuch when its always been known that the Dead Sea Scrolls consist solely of old testament scripture. He's trying to say that because something we know was dated to 200BC doesn't include Jesus we know He doesn't exist.

Last serious/big response I’ll give you.

Clearly this stuff goes way over your head. You’re not educated in this, you haven’t had the intellectual capacity nor patience to read the sources and ascertain them over many years, all the competing views.

You just call me a kike even though you worship a dead pussy kike because you’re not bright enough to refute the facts.
I'm sorry I pointed out that you act like a Jew.
I didn’t say the council invented it, smooth brain, just that it was the juncture where they agreed upon there being an actual trinity, what it was, and other aspects of the general faith, and that was over 300 years later.
Then why bring it up if you're now going to agree that it doesn't bear on what we're talking about?
No, you’re wrong. It wouldn’t make Julius Caesar, or Brutus, Cleopatra or King Tut mythical or mythical adjacent, because there are many sources outside of mythological books like the New Testament or books that comprise the Koran, that wrote about them. Look up the term historicity. You don’t seem to comprehend it.
Obviously emperors are going to be represented the best but when I say almost all historical figures I'm talking about almost all people in the past. The vast majority. Nobody wrote the gospels and all those epistles about some other carpenter from modern day Iqaluit.
lol. You pretend to be a learned man of theology and history yet you’re too stupid to understand who created the prophecies your faith is based on (predicated on). Sorry for the big wordsy words. I know you can’t grasp them.
Ancient Judaism. Not current day Judaism.
They were originally Jewish, just as the Babylonians conquered far more blood-based SEMITES (Jews) in Judah circa 586 BCE, 586 years before your fake messiah. How stupid are you to not grasp this?
I do.
According to you, Jews faked destroying their own temple but did destroy it? Or others destroyed it but they somehow immediately gained power and rewrote all of history even though the carbon dating tests prove the pieces of the Torah they have in the Dead Sea scrolls are from 2nd-3rd century BCE?
The fuck are you talking about here? I claim the Jews faked the destruction of their temple? Where?
 

T-t-t-Terry!

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Saul of Tarsus was one of the only NT major writers to have lived and he wasn’t there when your fake messiah was allegedly killed. In The Pauline Letters & Acts of The Apostles its admitted that he didn’t convert til after he was allegedly crucified.

So Paul wasn't fictional, but they were all fictional? That really clarifies things. Can you speak two sentences without contradicting yourself? But okay Paul definitely existed and he met the apostles and wrote about it. Thanks.
What were the apostles’ real names?
Lol really reaching here. Why does that matter? Peter's real name was Cephas and before that Simon.
What genealogy family trees could we trace back to them?
Did they have wives? That would be important to know. Do we have genealogies for other fishermen from that era?
And who were Pliny’s or Tacitus’ sources then? What earlier historical sources? Not ones from the mythos of the New Testament. Try to find them. They don’t exist, stupid.
If those sources were eyewitnesses then we wouldn't be able to produce them. Nice pilpul though.
 
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I've got to double down here because it really needs to be highlighted that this faggot is saying they found fragments of the Pentateuch when its always been known that the Dead Sea Scrolls consist solely of old testament scripture. He's trying to say that because something we know was dated to 200BC doesn't include Jesus we know He doesn't exist.


I'm sorry I pointed out that you act like a Jew.

Then why bring it up if you're now going to agree that it doesn't bear on what we're talking about?

Obviously emperors are going to be represented the best but when I say almost all historical figures I'm talking about almost all people in the past. The vast majority. Nobody wrote the gospels and all those epistles about some other carpenter from modern day Iqaluit.

Ancient Judaism. Not current day Judaism.

I do.

The fuck are you talking about here? I claim the Jews faked the destruction of their temple? Where?
I don't think you understand. He's talking about you saying Christianity is older than Judaism. That's what his (her?) argument has been.
 

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I don't think you understand. He's talking about you saying Christianity is older than Judaism. That's what his (her?) argument has been.
No we started with that and I'd have conceded that I was speaking about modern Judaism and obviously Christianity is the culmination of ancient Judaism but he started all this reddit shit up instead of sticking to the point.
 
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No we started with that and I'd have conceded that I was speaking about modern Judaism and obviously Christianity is the culmination of ancient Judaism but he started all this reddit shit up instead of sticking to the point.
That's why he (she?) is talking about the dead sea scrolls and the pentatuch being older than Jesus, e.g. You don't have to believe me. I'm just telling you.

So, to get back on track, terry says Christianity is older than Judaism because modern Judaism has changed as a massive cope for being wrong about the Christ. Ancient Judaism (of the Christian Bible) is extinct. Does that sum it up?

NiggerNoose says that's retarded cope in itself. Is that correct?

And...GO:
 
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I've got to double down here because it really needs to be highlighted that this faggot is saying they found fragments of the Pentateuch when its always been known that the Dead Sea Scrolls consist solely of old testament scripture. He's trying to say that because something we know was dated to 200BC doesn't include Jesus we know He doesn't exist.


I'm sorry I pointed out that you act like a Jew.

Then why bring it up if you're now going to agree that it doesn't bear on what we're talking about?

Obviously emperors are going to be represented the best but when I say almost all historical figures I'm talking about almost all people in the past. The vast majority. Nobody wrote the gospels and all those epistles about some other carpenter from modern day Iqaluit.

Ancient Judaism. Not current day Judaism.

I do.

The fuck are you talking about here? I claim the Jews faked the destruction of their temple? Where?
It’s mystifying how dumb you are.

I’m saying that something dated to 200 BCE IS INHERENTLY OLDER than your Jesus. It is. Whether Anus Christ existed or not, which he very likely didn’t, and whether he was a Herculean man god or not, which utilizing logic, science, and just basic intellect, he wasn’t, but the point is that BCE means before CE…which you still can’t grasp even though you concurrently seem to acknowledge when you write it!

It isn’t that they didn’t mention him.

They in fact mentioned the prophecies before your religion or messiah ever existed.

Therefore, the Jews’ religion is older than yours. You used their prophecies and constructed Christianity. Then you misinterpreted and changed/added a bunch of books and other things. Then you get angry at the kikes for killing a heretic who also would have been a Jew.

You see the problem now?


The ancient Jews vs the Jew of today??? They’re from the same genetic haplogroups at a certain point. Their Torah/Tanakh has not really changed at all. There’s no functional difference in their core beliefs. Their blood just got infinitely whiter when the gross Ashkenazi race came to fruition much later.

You sure are a double down dumb shit.

Your claim from the beginning was that Christianity is older than Judaism. This isn’t possible, not according to theological history or the carbon dating. You’re delusional.

That’s the only part I really want you to actually own up to, even though you won’t.

How do you reconcile that????
 

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It’s mystifying how dumb you are.

I’m saying that something dated to 200 BCE IS INHERENTLY OLDER than your Jesus. It is. Whether Anus Christ existed or not, which he very likely didn’t, and whether he was a Herculean man god or not, which utilizing logic, science, and just basic intellect, he wasn’t, but the point is that BCE means before CE…which you still can’t grasp even though you concurrently seem to acknowledge when you write it!

It isn’t that they didn’t mention him.

They in fact mentioned the prophecies before your religion or messiah ever existed.

Therefore, the Jews’ religion is older than yours. You used their prophecies and constructed Christianity. Then you misinterpreted and changed/added a bunch of books and other things. Then you get angry at the kikes for killing a heretic who also would have been a Jew.

You see the problem now?


The ancient Jews vs the Jew of today??? They’re from the same genetic haplogroups at a certain point. Their Torah/Tanakh has not really changed at all. There’s no functional difference in their core beliefs. Their blood just got infinitely whiter when the gross Ashkenazi race came to fruition much later.

You sure are a double down dumb shit.

Your claim from the beginning was that Christianity is older than Judaism. This isn’t possible, not according to theological history or the carbon dating. You’re delusional.

That’s the only part I really want you to actually own up to, even though you won’t.

How do you reconcile that????
Maybe we got off on the wrong foot. I should have used "Modern Judaism" from the beginning to clarify exactly what I was talking about and then I got caught up in the mix because we started arguing over other things tangential to my fuck up. You're still a faggot but I probably should have conceded that point earlier.

My bad
 
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I don't think you understand. He's talking about you saying Christianity is older than Judaism. That's what his (her?) argument has been.
Yes. Fucking thank you.. someone who isn’t fully retarded insofar as debate, theology, or history… at least not yet. Lol.

Dude said this:

“Christianity is older than what you consider Judaism, pleb.”


No. It’s not. Judaism is Judaism. There are different interpretations of it and way more multitudinous interpretations of Christianity but they still are what they are respectively. Cars are cars, even though there are many kinds of cars. Boats are not cars. Boats are boats.

So what “I” consider to be Judaism as a pleb is irrelevant because Judaism has certain core principles, the 5 Books of Moses (Pentateuch), the coming of the messiah, which has not happened yet according to their original Hebrew lexicon with ISA 7:14, ISA 2:4, etc.

And THAT is older than Christianity according to various historical accounts, figures, and radiocarbon testing of the Dead Sea Torah parts.

I don’t know how he didn’t get that.

Are you older than your grandpa? I think not.
 
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Maybe we got off on the wrong foot. I should have used "Modern Judaism" from the beginning to clarify exactly what I was talking about and then I got caught up in the mix because we started arguing over other things tangential to my fuck up. You're still a faggot but I probably should have conceded that point earlier.

My bad
There’s no religious difference in the core texts/beliefs of modern Judaism vs. ancient Judaism.

Do you honestly believe that Christianity somehow came before Judaism when Christianity’s Old Testament is literally The Torah plus other books that are literally almost the same as the Hebrew Tanakh?
 
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Faggot who uses the “common era” terminology.

In this forum we use Anno Domini, bucko!
Fuck you, Christhole.

I don’t use fictional, dead, fake, defeatist kike Yeshua Jesus impaled on a criss cross terminology.

BCE

ACE

Stop worshipping a fake, dead, weak faggot kike who came to save you from the very hell he/his dad stipulated you’d be eligible to burn in! Mentally retarded.
 

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Fuck you, Christhole.

I don’t use fictional, dead, fake, defeatist kike Yeshua Jesus impaled on a criss cross terminology.

BCE

ACE

Stop worshipping a fake, dead, weak faggot kike who came to save you from the very hell he/his dad stipulated you’d be eligible to burn in! Mentally retarded.
I’d rather use the system widely understood by everyone rather than the confusing calendar created by seething kikes and atheists to “totes show the Christ fags, guise!” Even those it still uses Christ’s (objective) existence as a basis.
 
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Fuck you, Christhole.

I don’t use fictional, dead, fake, defeatist kike Yeshua Jesus impaled on a criss cross terminology.

BCE

ACE

Stop worshipping a fake, dead, weak faggot kike who came to save you from the very hell he/his dad stipulated you’d be eligible to burn in! Mentally retarded.
I mean sure, you don't want to use the terminology, but "a rose by any other name," KnowhatImean?
 
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