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I know I’d rather watch slow bro joe preform at the local snack shack to that garbage fire that is called breaking bad.
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How did people actually enjoy Better Call Saul?
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looks stupid. I never hear anyone mention that movie
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Even Breaking Bad fans are embarrassed by El Camino. Yet that movie is a masterpiece compared to Many Saints of Newark.
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I don't know what that is either
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oh shit brb posting it to "movies you forgot existed" thread
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May the wind be nowhere but at your sails brotherman!
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I’m pretty sure he’s a character in Bojack Horseman. That show was horrible after like 2.5 seasons. Someone called it depression porn and that’s a pretty apt comparison. Saget should have sued them before he got beat by a tranny hooker.
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Many Saints might be the worst movie I’ve seen in a long time. The only decent part was the intro when Christufuh was tawking which is also the trailer. That and when Livia mocks Chris’s dad for having anxiety meds in his pocket when he died when in reality he was going to try to get her to take them.
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My wife's into this show right now. We're on season four. Boring and gay as fuck. I'd like to turn it off mid show and tell her "Enough."
It's a chick show like Bob's Burgers.
It's a chick show like Bob's Burgers.
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Here's the problem with Better Call Saul: When it focused on the lawyerly aspect with the criminal elements integrated on a moderate scale through S1-4, it was great. Good character studies with Saul and the people surrounding him and it felt fairly grounded. Then S5 and S6 came around that focused solely on the cartel capeshit aspect that clogged up screentime and turned the show into Breaking Bad lite, forgoing gradual character development for cheap action shlock and swallowing up every single one of the lawyer characters into a shitty tailspin
I still remember the S5 opening where Jimmy becomes Saul and he starts to work in the criminal underworld by peddling phones to burner junkies and criminals. THAT was the direction the show should have gone with Saul integrating himself slowly into the criminal underworld through his own volition, but instead, both him and Kim get taken hostage by a high positioned cartel lord and suddenly there's no subtlety, truly believable culpability, or nuance, just this super villain Lalo kicking down the door and forcing himself into their narrative.
I still remember the S5 opening where Jimmy becomes Saul and he starts to work in the criminal underworld by peddling phones to burner junkies and criminals. THAT was the direction the show should have gone with Saul integrating himself slowly into the criminal underworld through his own volition, but instead, both him and Kim get taken hostage by a high positioned cartel lord and suddenly there's no subtlety, truly believable culpability, or nuance, just this super villain Lalo kicking down the door and forcing himself into their narrative.
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Breaking Bad did the same thing. Walter was spiraling deeper and deeper into his drug lord fantasy, then they introduced a team of disgusting Nazi weirdos for him to do battle with. They just let the character off the hook in the end, which was just totally at odds with the entire story.
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It was blatantly obvious that the Nazi gang insert was to replicate "Walt vs Villain" play that has been present ever since Tuco. In my opinion, the last season should have been an isolated well-written cat and mouse game with Hank and Walt, with the nearing climax resulting with Walt causing his death, but without any cringe forced in Nazis. The whole series was building up to their showdown, but it didn't need them blowing their load by having Hank find out 2 episodes in for Season 5b. That's the problem with Vince Gilligan. He's good at setting up all these dominoes, but chooses the road that's easy when it comes to resolving plotlines.
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Walt getting let off the hook is basically the entire story. His cancer is barely there. He kills Tuco and his entire gang essentially. He kills Gus and his entire gang by himself. He uses magnets to destroy all evidence of his crimes. He has Hank and Gomez killed in a way that exonerates him of wrongdoing and blame. He kills Mike and his prison associates. He kills the Nazis and Lydia. He gives his family all of the money.
Shows like Sopranos, Boardwalk Empire, The Shield, had the main characters spiral into oblivion. Losing everyone around them. Having to kill their friends and family. All getting divorced and having miserable kids. And finally being left nearly alone or hanging on by a thread. Walt leaves his family $20million or whatever and becomes the most famous criminal in history. His life was a drug lord fantasy. Like Scarface but if the ending was him banging his sister and a bunch of women and leaving them his clean and tax free mansion and $20million in laundered money.
Walt's last moments are a triumphant war with Nazis after leaving his family enough money to buy a yacht and a mansion. Tony's last moments on screen are extreme bouts of paranoia whilst trying to enjoy onion rings with his wife and son. Nucky is shot by his adopted son's only son in revenge for abusing his grandmother and father.
If you watch Breaking Bad again, Walt is never really spiraling downward. He is failing upward. Killing without consequence and dealing drugs and laundering it without consequence. His only real loss is that his son hates him. But his son was materialistic and will probably take the $20million drug payoff if his mother insists. And with the Better Call Saul retcon they basically make Jimmy pay for the entire crime empire of Heisenberg which was hilarious. While Jesse goes free and Walt's family are millionaires. And Hank rots in his own shit in the desert.
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It was a cautionary drug story where the lead character falls upward. Instead of ending up in the gutter, he becomes a drug kingpin. But the ending just sucked. Walt was the "big bad", the Nazis were unnecessary caricatures who enabled the show to end with Walter getting redemption, instead of the ending he deserved. The scenes after the Nazis kill Hank was totally absurd. They allow two witnesses to walk away, and they give one of the witnesses a 25% share of the loot they just found, all because Todd, a certified weirdo, liked him. Real believable.
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I disagree. The show was always reddit's power fantasy. The ugly midget kike math teacher becomes the alpha male killer who slays Nazis and other drug dealers. It was always leading towards the ending of Walt going out like a hero. Stuff like Walt torching the guy's car in the first season should have been a sign that the show was a fantasy and a joke and would just get worse and worse. Or him beating up a college football player for mocking his crippled son as if that was realistic. As they continually had to up the ante for how 'hardcore' and 'alpha' Walt could be.
It was always a Sopranos ripoff down to each scene. Tony forces a guy to take his hat off. Walt fights a college football player. Tony fights with a cop who pulls him over by getting the guy's job pulled. Walt literally and physically fights with a cop who pulls him over and gets maced. Carmela cheats on Tony with a beta male with grey hair. Skylar cheats on Walt but the show has to be goofy they accidentally cripple the guy in a slapstick way. The old woman who banged JFK sings Happy Birthday. Skylar sings Happy Birthday the same way. Why? Because Sopranos did it first. Tony has Adriana killed. Walt kills Jane. Every.....single.....scene....is a Sopranos ripoff.
Better Call Saul was leading towards Saul fleeing the cartels and police and living under a fake name. But oh no!! We need a huge twist at the end. How about he turns himself in and takes a 100 year sentence. Brilliant.