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Is logic real? Are constructs supernatural?
No. They are simply man made. There is nothing that's supernatural. Or even unnatural for that matter. To be those things something would have to defy physics... And now that I think about it. That would give us new physics and become natural.
 

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No. They are simply man made. There is nothing that's supernatural. Or even unnatural for that matter. To be those things something would have to defy physics... And now that I think about it. That would give us new physics and become natural.
So if we all decided that a=b that would make it so?
 

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So if we all decided that a=b that would make it so?
What you are talking about is called consensus reality. And sort of yes. So the reason God is so powerful as a concept is in many places a group of people agreed he exists and is omnipresent. It changes how the mind processes the world.
 

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Sort of? Either we can make the sun cold by agreeing on it or we can't. I'm not talking about a linguistic difference, either - obviously language can change.
But if we all agree the sun is cold in the winter or something it becomes our reality. Objects don't care what people think but people do. But they have their own reality.
 

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We're getting into object oriented ontology which is so boring of a subject I only discuss it with AI and strangers at a bar.
 

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So facts are independent of the human mind?
Very interesting question. In my opinion most of the history of the universe did not have any humans. Most of the universe has no humans. But objects interact no matter the distance. The reality of things is different than the reality of men.
 

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Very interesting question. In my opinion most of the history of the universe did not have any humans. Most of the universe has no humans. But objects interact no matter the distance. The reality of things is different than the reality of men.
Right. If facts were dependent on a human mind then humans could never have come into existence, correct?
 

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Right. If facts were dependent on a human mind then humans could never have come into existence, correct?
That is a great way of putting it. I know that personhood is not exclusive to humans in Christianity. Angels are persons. 2 forms of God are persons. But yeah. The universe doesn't need people. It was fine without us.
 
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