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Why do you like wrestling?

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I think the Patrice Oneal explanation is good: it's stuntmen who also have to be good actors.

It's no different than action movies where you know it's fictional but the art of it is making you briefly believe that the stakes are important. Can you sell the idea to a large audience that the outcome of the main event will alter the course of some imagined history? It's some crazy psychology where the majority of the audience knows it's fake, the wrestlers are not trying to really injure one another, but everybody is in on the con and it makes money. But up to a point, wrestlers would be their characters in real life, never letting on that it's fake. So it sticks out as an industry. Also there's the athletic aspect of it; there's guys like Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar who are true athletes who've spent most of their careers doing this.

I think a good example is this match, because quickly you understand who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, why the stakes are important, why certain actions take place... and then everything is done impeccably and crisply, and then it becomes a paradox in a way because you know they're not intending on hurting each other, but how the fuck do they do this shit and not get injured all the time. Well, Rey's beat the fuck up now (but still doing it) and Eddie's dead from his heart exploding, but still.




But really the main appeal is the big characters. Stone Cold ruled because he was a redneck who drank beers and hit his boss in the head with a bedpan. There's no mystery in that.
 
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Also there's weird real shit that lead to the boom of it in the late 90s, like they take something that was "unscripted" like the Montreal Screwjob and they play up the reality of it which lead to the creation of the Vince McMahon character who was the on-screen owner of the company... which he had been the whole time. When they do the Larry David/George Costanza "there's your show, that's your show" thing where the reality or the real drama IS the story, that's actually interesting. That's why Stone Cold's rise was entertaining: Vince legitimately didn't see him as the top guy, but the fans loved him. The Rock's tied into this too, as he was a guy who stunk, so then they made him a bad guy and then got popular and now he's the biggest Hollywood attraction. Rock debuted in 1996 and his last full calendar year in wrestling was 2000. The actual wrestling aspect has nearly nothing to do with why it's popular.
 
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I liked it as a kid. It was one of the N64 games that got me into it for a few years during the whole Austin v Vince and The Rock era. I grew out of it a couple of years later.

It's fine for kids to like I guess considering the utter shite my nephew likes like "is it cake" or cartoons but even as a kid I was confused as to why so many in the crowd were adults and not even parents
 
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Riccardo Bosi said:
I think the Patrice Oneal explanation is good: it's stuntmen who also have to be good actors.

It's no different than action movies where you know it's fictional but the art of it is making you briefly believe that the stakes are important. Can you sell the idea to a large audience that the outcome of the main event will alter the course of some imagined history? It's some crazy psychology where the majority of the audience knows it's fake, the wrestlers are not trying to really injure one another, but everybody is in on the con and it makes money. But up to a point, wrestlers would be their characters in real life, never letting on that it's fake. So it sticks out as an industry. Also there's the athletic aspect of it; there's guys like Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar who are true athletes who've spent most of their careers doing this.

I think a good example is this match, because quickly you understand who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, why the stakes are important, why certain actions take place... and then everything is done impeccably and crisply, and then it becomes a paradox in a way because you know they're not intending on hurting each other, but how the fuck do they do this shit and not get injured all the time. Well, Rey's beat the fuck up now (but still doing it) and Eddie's dead from his heart exploding, but still.




But really the main appeal is the big characters. Stone Cold ruled because he was a redneck who drank beers and hit his boss in the head with a bedpan. There's no mystery in that.
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I remember hearing something about how the showrunner (who wasn’t Vince but i cant remember his name) was upset about how when Vince really took the reigns he changed wrestling in some way. Something about storylines? I wish i could remember
 
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I appreciate you taking Vincespiration for the pedostache, funster.
 
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Sue Lightning said:
I remember hearing something about how the showrunner (who wasn’t Vince but i cant remember his name) was upset about how when Vince really took the reigns he changed wrestling in some way. Something about storylines? I wish i could remember
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Well, there was Vince Russo who urged McMahon to make wrestling more "reality based" and to keep the product up with the times.

There's other guys who worked with Russo and McMahon like Bruce Prichard who talks shit about Russo, but he's a notorious liar, and Jim Cornette who is a wrestling genius who absolutely DESPISES Russo, but even that may be a work. The podcasts about wrestling are the most interesting aspect of the business at the moment.
 
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Riccardo Bosi said:
I think the Patrice Oneal explanation is good: it's stuntmen who also have to be good actors.

It's no different than action movies where you know it's fictional but the art of it is making you briefly believe that the stakes are important. Can you sell the idea to a large audience that the outcome of the main event will alter the course of some imagined history? It's some crazy psychology where the majority of the audience knows it's fake, the wrestlers are not trying to really injure one another, but everybody is in on the con and it makes money. But up to a point, wrestlers would be their characters in real life, never letting on that it's fake. So it sticks out as an industry. Also there's the athletic aspect of it; there's guys like Kurt Angle and Brock Lesnar who are true athletes who've spent most of their careers doing this.

I think a good example is this match, because quickly you understand who's the good guy, who's the bad guy, why the stakes are important, why certain actions take place... and then everything is done impeccably and crisply, and then it becomes a paradox in a way because you know they're not intending on hurting each other, but how the fuck do they do this shit and not get injured all the time. Well, Rey's beat the fuck up now (but still doing it) and Eddie's dead from his heart exploding, but still.




But really the main appeal is the big characters. Stone Cold ruled because he was a redneck who drank beers and hit his boss in the head with a bedpan. There's no mystery in that.
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yo...can I borrow your STARDOM password?
 
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