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Ridley Scott hasn't had a good film in over twenty years - and even before that you can say he hadn't had anything amazing between Blade Runner Final Cut and Kingdom of Heaven Directors Cut.

The first Gladiator is ok, Thelma and Louise is a good movie (for women), Hannibal is shit, Black Hawk Down is popcorn, and Matchstick Men is to him what Mr. And Mrs. Smith was to Hitchcock.

I won't even comment on Black Rain.
 
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Single Action Army said:
Ridley Scott """historical""" movies are all terrible.
Why the fuck are you making a historical movie if you're only gonna pay the slightest superficial lip service to real history? Just make a space opera or fantasy epic at that point or something
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I actually like his historical movies because I think his vision isn't necessarily meant to be accurate - it's to put out a grand visual spectacle. Like his Napoleon was based more on English myths of him than history but it didn't make me not enjoy the film in front of me.

In the 60s they made a ton of huge grand Sword 'n Sandals blockbusters (Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, etc) and none of them were accurate but they're some of the most famous films Hollywood ever made because viewers couldn't believe the sheer epic scale of the productions. They were huge projects that took a long time and lot of money to coordinate and put together.

If you watch Ridley Scott expecting accuracy or even the thing to fucking make sense you will be disappointed. I recommend just turning your brain off and watching the thing and forgetting it when it's over.
 
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Paul said:
I actually like his historical movies because I think his vision isn't necessarily to be accurate - it's to put put a grand visual spectacle. Like his Napoleon was based more on English myths of him than history but it didn't make me not enjoy the film in front of me.

In the 60s they made a ton of huge grand Sword 'n Sandals blockbusters (Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, etc) and none of them were accurate but they're some of the most famous films Hollywood ever made because viewers couldn't believe the sheer epic scale of the productions. They were huge projects that took a long time and lot of money to coordinate and put together.

If you watch Ridley Scott expecting accuracy or even the thing to fucking make sense you will be disappointed. I recommend just turning your brain off and watching the thing and forgetting it when it's over.
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THEY DIDNT HAVE FLAT TOPS IN ANCIENT ROME!
 
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Paul said:
I actually like his historical movies because I think his vision isn't necessarily to be accurate - it's to put put a grand visual spectacle. Like his Napoleon was based more on English myths of him than history but it didn't make me not enjoy the film in front of me.

In the 60s they made a ton of huge grand Sword 'n Sandals blockbusters (Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, etc) and none of them were accurate but they're some of the most famous films Hollywood ever made because viewers couldn't believe the sheer epic scale of the productions. They were huge projects that took a long time and lot of money to coordinate and put together.

If you watch Ridley Scott expecting accuracy or even the thing to fucking make sense you will be disappointed. I recommend just turning your brain off and watching the thing and forgetting it when it's over.
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"Umm stop having any expectations from your multi-million-dollar entertainment."

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"Umm stop having any expectations from your multi-million-dollar entertainment."

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No, that's not what I said, child.

You must simply adjust your expectations to meet the history of what the creator in question has already put out.
If you know what he does, you should have appropriate expectations going in. You're not paying multi-million dollars to watch so... What's your gripe?
If you know what something is going to be and then get mad it's not what you want it to be instead, that's on you.

It's okay to just not like Ridley Scott. But to criticize him for not being something he never intended to be in the first place feels odd. Like, that's not a criticism. That's just you personally not liking what he's doing. Which is fine. But it doesn't make what he does bad.
 
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Paul said:
No, that's not what I said, child.

You must simply adjust your expectations to meet the history of what the creator in question has already put out.
If you know what he does, you should have appropriate expectations going in. You're not paying multi-million dollars to watch so... What's your gripe?
If you know what something is going to be and then get mad it's not what you want it to be instead, that's on you.

It's okay to just not like Ridley Scott. But to criticize him for not being something he never intended to be in the first place feels odd. Like, that's not a criticism. That's just you personally not liking what he's doing. Which is fine. But it doesn't make what he does bad.
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I will continue to rewatch Master and Commander and call Scott a limey hack bongnigger
 
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Just saw it. He is truly a filmmaker that needs to have limitations placed on him.

I enjoyed the movie but I have lots of thoughts on it, Ridley should be told there’s no budget for cgi.

It was more intense to me in the first movie when the dude dropped down his silver faceplate than when they have a full naval battle with sharks in this one.

Also why are there no modern action stars with PRESENCE anymore?

What makes Russell Crowe electric is not his physique, it’s the fact that he has a dangerous aura. Look at him in TLADILA or Romper Stomper, he’s fucking magnet and electrifying.

That’s a whole separate topic though, like how we have The Rock today filling the Arnold role. Not even in the same galaxy
 
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Paul said:
I actually like his historical movies because I think his vision isn't necessarily meant to be accurate - it's to put out a grand visual spectacle. Like his Napoleon was based more on English myths of him than history but it didn't make me not enjoy the film in front of me.

In the 60s they made a ton of huge grand Sword 'n Sandals blockbusters (Cleopatra, Ben-Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, etc) and none of them were accurate but they're some of the most famous films Hollywood ever made because viewers couldn't believe the sheer epic scale of the productions. They were huge projects that took a long time and lot of money to coordinate and put together.

If you watch Ridley Scott expecting accuracy or even the thing to fucking make sense you will be disappointed. I recommend just turning your brain off and watching the thing and forgetting it when it's over.
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That's a given that everyone understands. I remeber some history Youtuber saying that Braveheart is laughably historically inaccurate and he should hate it for it, but as a movie and an action-epic in particular, it's amazing and he loves it. In a similar vein, the original Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven are widely liked because they were well-made movies. The problem is that that since KoH, Scott's historical spectacle flicks don't seem to be particularly spectacular.
 
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