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This movie always sucked

Lamont & Tonelli

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It was better than the one before it where you couldn't fucking see anything.
Hot take: I'd rather watch Schumacher's Batmans, at least those have some sense of fun. Tommy Lee Jones resenting Jim Carrey the whole time, Clooney playing deliberately gay, "Ice to see you aauughlghyaulgh", give me that cornball shit all day over faggot grimdark "Swear to me!" Baleman.
 

HotDogJoe

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the first 45 minutes of batman begins are some of the absolute best capeshit ever put to film, then it shits the bed in the later two acts. ironically, the movie plummets in quality the second he becomes batman

I haven't seen that movie since it came out but I remember thinking the same thing. All the stuff at the beginning where he's at the temple and in the jail is great. I've completely forgotten everything that comes after that though.
 

Voscabulary

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I haven't seen that movie since it came out but I remember thinking the same thing. All the stuff at the beginning where he's at the temple and in the jail is great. I've completely forgotten everything that comes after that though.
even that first fight scene of him in the prison is the only good hand-to-hand combat sequence. the rest are shaky cam, jump cut messes
 

Chive Turkey

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I thought it was pretty good for capeshit, which admittedly isn't saying much. The most well-rounded of the Nolan Batman movies, no major flaws.

It is painful rewatching it and hearing Bale's dumb growly Batman voice and noticing how over the top it is. I remember someone once saying he sounds like Barry White and that still gets my ribs even if it isn't really accurate.
 

LingerLonger

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Any superhero movie will have to be unbelievable and retarded just off the premise, as far as they go this one was better than most. Certainly not in my top 100 films tho
Something like Unbreakable is about as grounded a 'superhero' story as you can get. Where superheroes exist but they are not more powerful than the entire US military by themselves (though the villain Mr Glass has the resources of a Bond Villain or Jigsaw apparently). Where Superman can have a nightmare and wake up accidentally laser blasting his entire neighborhood to death or or whatever. Or Magneto could knock every plane out of the sky for a laugh and no one could stop him.

As stupid as the entire premise of Batman is, it did lead to 'The Coon' on South Park, and some of the better episodes of the show in its decline phase. Where Cartman is doing the fake deep Batman voice still gets a laugh out of me. "Stay away from her you rapist!". "Be careful Bruce Vilanch there are super beings fighting over there!".
 

wbgreen

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The campy ‘60s Adam West show had the most accurate take on the main villains. The Joker is supposed to be silly and dangerous, not a hideous psycho. The Joker will point a gun at your face, but you don’t know if it’s loaded with a bullet, or flowers. And maybe those flowers have poison gas. That’s how Caesar Romero and Nicholson played it.

The Riddler is a mostly normal guy with a temper, he’s not a Jim Carey goofball or incel. The Penguin is a blue blood aristocrat, not a mob goon.
 

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The campy ‘60s Adam West show had the most accurate take on the main villains. The Joker is supposed to be silly and dangerous, not a hideous psycho. The Joker will point a gun at your face, but you don’t know if it’s loaded with a bullet, or flowers. And maybe those flowers have poison gas. That’s how Caesar Romero and Nicholson played it.

The Riddler is a mostly normal guy with a temper, he’s not a Jim Carey goofball or incel. The Penguin is a blue blood aristocrat, not a mob goon.


It may not be popular to say here, but out of all the capeshit, the Batman ones tend to be the most watchable.

Adam West goes without saying. It's bloody Adam West, I'd watch him read the phone book.

Keatons first one is excellent. Edited like shit, but he carries that film. Nicholson adds the right kind of chaos that makes it amusing. I still hold that Burton wasn't the right choice, it's Sam Hamm's script that keeps it together, but it's balanced. Returns isn't though - it's all Burton's nonsense with Daniel Waters' shit script, too much of the villains and Keaton is far too secondary. But when he's on screen, I enjoy the film.

Schumachers are a strange lot: Forever was originally more serious than what it ended up being, but it's a good mix of silly and sincere. Kilmer gets too much shit, even if he was a cunt off camera. Carrey is a bellend and Jones was clearly a Pillock, but he will always get a pass for his "I cannot sanction your buffoonery" right in Carrey's face in real life. The last one... Watch it drunk and as a comedy.

Nolan's are a bit too self serving, especially the last one. Begins is two great acts and a third that takes you out of it. Dark Knight is a very good crime film that exhausts you mentally by the end. And Rises just, really, should've been worked on another year, because none of that movie stands out.

But then we get to The Batman, and here is where I'll probably lose you all. I loved it. Not perfect, bit long, but it worked. Pattinson surprised me, he was great. Every actor did a serviceable to excellent job. It was a good story and shot very well. For a first try, I was impressed, and look forward to more.

Call me a fag for all that, though.
 
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Mitch Weaver

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It may not be popular to say here, but out of all the capeshit, the Batman ones tend to be the most watchable.

Adam West goes without saying. It's bloody Adam West, I'd watch him read the phone book.

Keatons first one is excellent. Edited like shit, but he carries that film. Nicholson adds the right kind of chaos that makes it amusing. I still hold that Burton wasn't the right choice, it's Sam Hamm's script that keeps it together, but it's balanced. Returns isn't though - it's all Burton's nonsense with Daniel Waters' shit script, too much of the villains and Keaton is far too secondary. But when he's on screen, I enjoy the film.

Schumachers are a strange lot: Forever was originally more serious than what it ended up being, but it's a good mix of silly and sincere. Kilmer gets too much shit, even if he was a cunt off camera. Carrey is a bellend and Jones was clearly a Pillock, but he will always get a pass for his "I cannot sanction your buffoonery" right in Carrey's face in real life. The last one... Watch it drunk and as a comedy.

Nolan's are a bit too self serving, especially the last one. Begins is two great acts and a third that takes you out of it. Dark Knight is a very good crime film that exhausts you mentally by the end. And Rises just, really, should've been worked on another year, because none of that movie stands out.

But then we get to The Batman, and here is where I'll probably lose you all. I loved it. Not perfect, bit long, but it worked. Pattinson surprised me, he was great. Every actor did a serviceable to excellent job. It was a good story and shot very well. For a first try, I was impressed, and look forward to more.

Call me a fag for all that, though.
I’ll call you a fag if only because every time I see one of your posts, that stupid Congo song plays in my head.

And Keaton rules.
 

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Was good dumb fun. I wish it wasn't made now though. It's helped spawn the endless trash that is marvel films now. I saw the dark Knight before I saw batman begins and I prefer dark knight. It's just about workable as it's own standalone film even if it is in the silly comic book film it doesn't always feel it. The other two? Utter nonsense
 

Stealthygeekfan

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The campy ‘60s Adam West show had the most accurate take on the main villains. The Joker is supposed to be silly and dangerous, not a hideous psycho. The Joker will point a gun at your face, but you don’t know if it’s loaded with a bullet, or flowers. And maybe those flowers have poison gas. That’s how Caesar Romero and Nicholson played it.

The Riddler is a mostly normal guy with a temper, he’s not a Jim Carey goofball or incel. The Penguin is a blue blood aristocrat, not a mob goon.
Sure but are we pretending that old comics aren't faggoty garbage too or something? Older movies and shows being more relatable to older comics isn't any better than newer ones being more like new comics. It's all capeshit garbage.
 
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