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chocolatehellhole

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@Wisconsin.gov wwawd day of global jihad
He's clearly planning something. @FBI his name is Liban Sheikhau Muhumed. Please deal with it.
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Imager

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Former Israeli PM says he doesn't give a fuck about dying Palestinian babies because Israel is 'fighting Nazis'

Literally everything Jews do is right, understand that you fucking goy? Your questions are anti-Semitic and we will consider you a nazi for asking and treat you the exact same way.

 

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The US government goes on TV and tells you it supports Israel. Fuck Hamas because they killed a dozen of our citizens

And then Israel proceeds to flatten Gaza which contains hundreds of US citizens which their embassy refuses to help because theyre in the wrong country. “You have to take the one road out” but Israel is bombing that road.

All while the US and congressmen are sending planes to Israel to evacuate our citizens there.
 
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I haven't been following the thread and likely won't go back to read through, but hopefully everyone acknowledges "Bibi" allowed this to happen so he could float his approval ratings back up in an ocean of Arab blood after the Egyptians warned him explicitly this was coming.
 
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So some time to digest....if I have this right:

-One of the worlds top intelligence agencies misses obvious signs and warnings about attack
-Terrorist attack with second rate technology and weaponry beats the top technological defense system around

-Savage traumatic optics, sensational news stories --chaos/rubble
-Immediate comparison to 9/11 casualty on multiple news outlets ("per capita this is worse!")
-IDF immediately knows exactly where all these people are and bombards them within hours
-The war Israel has always wanted is underway.... they're able to tell the USA to chew on their foreskin while they complete their takeover
-Food, water, electricity is cut off to a ridiculously densely populated area
-They're told to "get out, or die"....and go where, exactly?
-Full on ground invasion, thousands of civilian casualties
-Refugee crisis, Isreal gets all their land, white nations bombarded by another flood of migrants
-Chaos, WW3 insuing.....lots of money to lends at interest, one world government, one world currency.....


Now I'm just a regular Joe at the job site, certainly no Boq precision or Ben Shapiro.....but something here stinks.
I don't care about the geopolitical implications either way but I still want to run my stupid mouth:

The first two aren't outside the realm of possibility. They could hear there was an attack coming and not know the details. They're not perfect - quit taking their word for it. They're also always under threat of attack so it's just noise to say they heard something. They're always hearing something

As for the second thing, there's no way to be 100% immune from attack. A sneak attack from people who don't care if they live or die using a novel tactical approach is a tale as old as time. The confusion factor alone is going to hamper the defender's ability to respond for a while. Could ground radar even pick up those ultralights at the heights they flew at? Could AA track and hit them? I don't know but it's possible they couldn't.

So if we set that aside and just proceed from your third bullet point, what changes? Israel has all the cards and could just bide their time until Hamas figured something out and proceed from there. It doesn't need to be a 5D backgammon op.
 

Sue Lightning

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I don't care about the geopolitical implications either way but I still want to run my stupid mouth:

The first two aren't outside the realm of possibility. They could hear there was an attack coming and not know the details. They're not perfect - quit taking their word for it. They're also always under threat of attack so it's just noise to say they heard something. They're always hearing something
The problem is is that, from my understanding, they were given specific briefs beyond “an attack is coming”. Hamas had also been staging attacks, literally building a mock replica of an Israeli town to prepare, somehow undetected. And also while Iran was sending them armaments. It’s way more clear than say, 9/11, where Bush just got a piece of paper saying “Al Quada may attack” without where, why, or even how. And in that instance the US rarely receives attacks on its soil, so why would they attack now? Reversely, Israel is always experiencing attacks relative to its countries history.
As for the second thing, there's no way to be 100% immune from attack. A sneak attack from people who don't care if they live or die using a novel tactical approach is a tale as old as time. The confusion factor alone is going to hamper the defender's ability to respond for a while. Could ground radar even pick up those ultralights at the heights they flew at? Could AA track and hit them? I don't know but it's possible they couldn't.
100% immune? Of course not. Prepared? Yes. I think if you get intel the terrorists living next to you are receiving arms and training for an invasion you should station troops on the border or put them on alert. Hamas literally ran into a place where the IDF was and slaughtered them in their sleep. It is a stunning level of incompetence relative to the information they’ve revealed they had. And there is no strategic reason to reveal this lapse of judgement because it tells your enemies you’re completely unprepared or don’t trust your allies or their information.
So if we set that aside and just proceed from your third bullet point, what changes? Israel has all the cards and could just bide their time until Hamas figured something out and proceed from there. It doesn't need to be a 5D backgammon op.
Conspiracies like these usually don’t make sense based on how far reaching they are. Lets say the Mossad knew these guys were doing all this and where and when they were going to invade. There is a chain of command there where someone would leak it or even better, go against the traitors to their country and inform another higher up that a terrorist attack is being planned and about to happen under the supervision of the gov itself. It is accepting that the Israelis, who generally consider their people indispensable, let hundreds of their innocents get killed to start a war they could have justified over a fucking pin dropping at a temple.
 

Chive Turkey

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The first two aren't outside the realm of possibility. They could hear there was an attack coming and not know the details. They're not perfect - quit taking their word for it. They're also always under threat of attack so it's just noise to say they heard something. They're always hearing something
This is basically Yom Kippur 2.0. The kikes had grown complacent in their superiority back then too and refused to respond to leads that were offered to them on a silver platta. Then a surprise attack happened and despite fending it off, it was an undeniably humiliating experience that led to the fall of the government responsible and a geopolitical upheaval.

Lotta israelis seem to be mad as shit at their government for dropping the ball. Lots of vids floating around of ex-IDF members saying "this never could've happened 10 years ago!" and alluding to Netanyahu Pearl Harboring this shit. The simpler answer is that a lot can happen to a military's readiness over the course of a decade when brass, govt and glownigs don't give it the attention it deserves and are too busy pursuing other interests.
 
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