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I Wanna See the Courthouse Movie! Updated Schedules, Links to Casefiles

CarolMaxheinie

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Just got off a conference call with my lawyers and they confirmed that yes, he is indeed a big fat swine.

I ran into Elena Kagan in the deodorant aisle at Target just now, and she said the same thing.
“Big fucking pig, terrible hygiene”, were her exact words.

I would have taken a selfie, but I’m a 41 year old man.
 

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I'm not a lawyer, but this was covered in the Tucker Max case. The defamation depends on not only the statement, but who's saying it and where. If Lester Holt goes on NBC Nightly News and says that Rick Tomlinson is a pedophile and a rapist, that's defamatory. It's from a credible source and can be reasonably believed. If the New York Times publishes an article saying the same, it's also defamatory. If some guy named ChicopeeChip or GasTheKikes (funny name, btw) says the same thing on a private message board, it's not defamatory because it's not something that should be reasonably believed.

An actual quote in the lawsuit judgement read as follows:



I would imagine the same applies here.

Thank God I didn't go with my second screenname choice, "TheRealRayWilson_YesImSerious_Itsme_BuyMyNewAlbum"!
 
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"In essence, the Court has erroneously asked Plaintiff to apply the Krinsky twice in two very different contexts"

You're doing it wrong, judgey child child. I'm sorry you're so stupid.
Yea I bet Stein and Schulman would like to "wrong twice, childed" argument.
Edit : Isnt quasis anonymity protected by First fucking Amendment? This is what Stein said. Why are they babbling about Krinsky doesnt have to be satisfied?
 
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So I'm borderline retarded but can someone please explain Rick's legal strategy here and how the California and Wisconsin cases fold into each other?

The California case seems to be related to only a select few posts and comments that Rick says are defamatory and he has suffered damages as a result. No mention of 60 John Does. He's just saying he needs Quasi's info so that he can then get info on the people who left the "defamatory" posts mentioned in this filing.

So what does this have to do with the Wisconsin case? Let's say the California judge suffers brain hemorrhaging and not only doesn't quash but grants the subpeona. Is Rick trying to use that precedent to allow him to then get the info of the 60 Does mentioned in the Wisconsin filing?

Again, I'm not super bright or anything, but I'm trying to follow the thread here on absolute best case scenarios for Ricky and it still doesn't make a lick of sense. He remains fat, however. That much I know.
 
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So I'm borderline retarded but can someone please explain Rick's legal strategy here and how the California and Wisconsin cases fold into each other?

The California case seems to be related to only a select few posts and comments that Rick says are defamatory and he has suffered damages as a result. No mention of 60 John Does. He's just saying he needs Quasi's info so that he can then get info on the people who left the "defamatory" posts mentioned in this filing.

So what does this have to do with the Wisconsin case? Let's say the California judge suffers brain hemorrhaging and not only doesn't quash but grants the subpeona. Is Rick trying to use that precedent to allow him to then get the info of the 60 Does mentioned in the Wisconsin filing?

Again, I'm not super bright or anything, but I'm trying to follow the thread here on absolute best case scenarios for Ricky and it still doesn't make a lick of sense. He remains fat, however. That much I know.
There was never any plan. Rick one day just said "I'm going to sue these people", took out loans and hired some lawyers. There was never any kind of road map or concrete strategy. Even on the off chance that he names one or two people, nobody is getting served. He did this mostly to scare us.

To answer your question, he needs the info from Cali to proceed in Wisconsin. Brinton is about to appear yet again in front of judge Ashley completely empty handed and will have to ask for another extension.
 
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You’re all about to lose everything. Quietly now. Jason Bourne is on the case now, you’ll be executed off the books. This goes all the way to the top.
Operation Fatstone and Fatbriar. It's all fat-ops.

explain Rick's legal strategy here
In California he wants to force Cloudflare to give him Quasi's information, then he can force Quasi, aka John Doe 1, to give up the remaining John Does 2-60 so they can be prosecuted in Wisconsin. He's arguing that Quasi made defamatory remarks even though they can't provide an example. They're saying they're sure he did so the judge should grant them three wishes and a magic carpet. More likely, when he gets their information he uses it for nefarious and very fat purposes outside the courts. They say Quasi did something, show a few poorly argued examples that don't really prove a thing, then argue the case should be allowed proceed anyway.

The reason his case looks confusing and shaky is because there isn't really a defamation case as much as there is a doxxing attempt through the legal system. All the "evidence" he's detailed is taken out of context or fabrication. The judge said he can't see defamation in the supplement he asked them to write so they had to resubmit one. The revised supplement was handed in late and is basically the same arguments used in their previous. Their whole case is a sham. It's about getting the personal information of John Does 1-60.

If his case was anything more than a fishing expedition he'd be prosecuting real crimes and not crying about his Twitter. People reported him for comments he made which were deemed by Twitter to be against the terms of service. That's illegal to Pat. Fictitious and misleading book reviews that praise his books, even ones written by himself are legal, but negative reviews are terrorism to Pat. Pat is an armed lunatic trying to hunt down people through frivalous litigation. Protecting their identities is what the law is designed to do. Pat's lawyers Resto and Mayr know they're dealing with a mentally unbalanced client but want to pursue his claims for their shameful greed.

Nicole Ways can show me her titties and I'll forgive her.
 

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Operation Fatstone and Fatbriar. It's all fat-ops.


In California he wants to force Cloudflare to give him Quasi's information, then he can force Quasi, aka John Doe 1, to give up the remaining John Does 2-60 so they can be prosecuted in Wisconsin. He's arguing that Quasi made defamatory remarks even though they can't provide an example. They're saying they're sure he did so the judge should grant them three wishes and a magic carpet. More likely, when he gets their information he uses it for nefarious and very fat purposes outside the courts. They say Quasi did something, show a few poorly argued examples that don't really prove a thing, then argue the case should be allowed proceed anyway.

The reason his case looks confusing and shaky is because there isn't really a defamation case as much as there is a doxxing attempt through the legal system. All the "evidence" he's detailed is taken out of context or fabrication. The judge said he can't see defamation in the supplement he asked them to write so they had to resubmit one. The revised supplement was handed in late and is basically the same arguments used in their previous. Their whole case is a sham. It's about getting the personal information of John Does 1-60.

If his case was anything more than a fishing expedition he'd be prosecuting real crimes and not crying about his Twitter. People reported him for comments he made which were deemed by Twitter to be against the terms of service. That's illegal to Pat. Fictitious and misleading book reviews that praise his books, even ones written by himself are legal, but negative reviews are terrorism to Pat. Pat is an armed lunatic trying to hunt down people through frivalous litigation. Protecting their identities is what the law is designed to do. Pat's lawyers Resto and Mayr know they're dealing with a mentally unbalanced client but want to pursue his claims for their shameful greed.

Nicole Ways can show me her titties and I'll forgive her.

This is the thing that both judges need to take into account: his desire for the names.

Legally he's not supposed to get a hold of them even if they're turned over... So why pursue this so fervently? Because the bloody Stump wants to go after everyone if he gets the names; he wants the lawyers to hand them over to him and use the information obtained for what the court would consider "illegal purposes".

The moment when the Justice saw what he desired, they should've done their due diligence and looked at his tweets - his public fucking tweets, mind you - and realized what the goal really is. What you guys may do as trolling, Pat takes seriously, and that's the reason I have grown to hate the man and comment in this section of the forum: he is a disgusting, legitimately evil and vindictive human being.

Any Justice seeing that would come to the conclusion he's created his own hell, and perpetuates it like a retired geriatric toiling in their personal garden. The Logan Lynn period here confirms that when they disengage, we make like Opie and "Leave It Alone".

Said Justice(s) should have screamed at Pat like a five year old and tossed the case with prejudice. Everything here is so fucking obvious, with just the littlest bit of effort to look into it, that I'm at a loss at your judicial system.

This was never about real Justice. This idiot wants vengeance. He thinks he's in an 80's Punisher comic book, but all he's punishing is his liver and midsection.
 

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Actually, filing the same thing again and doing it late when it wasn’t good enough the first two times is a good thing for Pat. I’m sorry you’re too stupid to understand why. Have a good one.

Also, the spiralling legal costs of both sides accruing with each failed filing is great news for Pat, if you’re not too stupid to actually listen to the hearing.
 
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Also don't forget that it appears he's wholly created a lot of the "evidence" against the John Does. A weird email from YoullNeverGetMe1488 at Protonmail. A suspect account created on the old forums that made 5 posts threatening Rick and was never heard from again. A "vandalism" claim that supposedly defaced his car and motorcycle but was never mentioned in his socials. He's taken many pictures of his "upgraded" shitty patio with the car in the pictures but no vandalism was ever seen.
 
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Without the SFWA funding he wouldn't have done any of this. They handed a demonstrably stupid man a blank check to pursue sixty people in several jurisdictions. I'd say this is a failing of their own processes and lack of accountability for their member's funds more than the law.
Just like with the PPP, he doesn't see the SFWA funding as a loan. He is never paying this back.
 
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Just like with the PPP, he doesn't see the SFWA funding as a loan. He is never paying this back.
The SFWA seems to operate for the benefit of a little clique within it giving themselves awards and praise. I wouldn't put it past old Mary "fuck me with the lights off" Robinette-Kowal to have simply handed Pat a pile of cash with no strings attached before she was replaced as Grand Poobah.
 

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Just like with the PPP, he doesn't see the SFWA funding as a loan. He is never paying this back.
I’m near positive it’s not the SFWA. It’s gotta be Nikkis mom. He probably told her he’s getting harassed by people online for his opinions. Him and Nikki feel in danger and the only way to take them down is to name them and put them in prison. Didn’t they get life insurance for their dad or something? The mom was VP on some company too right? It’s much more plausible than a bunch of faggot child molesters with a bunch of red tape.
 
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