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NoBacon

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Nope

No worse than yours,

Nowhere close to being a ratified thing (edit - unless you mean a Passport that is digital, which is the most innocuous thing in the world rather than a mircrochip in your arm)

State enforced medical procedures? what?!

Protesting is not outlawed and happens all the time. Literally 100000 Palestinians just marched through London

Nobody bows to monarchs, they are mostly irrelevant

You are not free and the BBC is a bigger propaganda machine than the Russian Times.

I’m not defending the USA when I say this.

Freedom, liberty and righteousness is becoming outlawed and if you don’t see it, you have already fallen in step. It’s the great falling away.
 

NoBacon

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I ask because I've run into alot of people from Europe in my work and hear alot of "In ________, this would be free!!" "In ________ you get 6 weeks vacations!"...."American healthcare is crazy!" ....when over time I've realized that their pay is usually shit and it's impossible to really move up financially if you don't come from money. They also seem to be generally lazy (long ass lunchbreaks, coffee breaks,). In the US its hard to move up, but it is possible for a fat Irish retard to have a 5 sink house.

You're right thought that its all subjective though. Thanks for exposing these people as selfish cunts who only look at the world through their own lenses.

I compared what I paid in health insurance the last 10 years to what my British cousin paid in taxes for it. I had to pay a few thousand dollars up front a few times, but in that decade I was tens of thousands of dollars better off.

Yeah. It’s free at the point of use, which is nice - and I’m a healthy person who abhors being lazy and fat, and if I wasn’t and I was always ill or God forbid I get a serious illness, this trade off would change.

But also, when I needed something - I got it straight away, he has weeks or months of waiting, and gets terrible treatment.

There’s a reason every health service in Europe buys treatments from the USA (or just steals them - we subsidise all healthcare) and I’d rather be in debt than dead.

They also think they literally bring you a bill and say “pay this in full now or we kill you” - you can work out payment plans, and how is that any different to paying into a socialist scheme no matter how much you use it or how healthy you personally live?
 

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Interracial porn. Ewww. Get Blacked, you perv 😜

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The Shah of Iran

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You are not free and the BBC is a bigger propaganda machine than the Russian Times.
!00% correct but again, you're labouring under the misapprehension that it's commonplace to watch it, or even pay a TV license. With streaming services becoming so prevalent, it became impossible to charge people 150quid for the right to own a laptop. No one I know pays it. Now if you were to roll the clocks back 30 years you were fucked for watching TV unless you paid it because there was no alternative and no excuse to tell the inspector and it was easier to monitor.

So you could make the argument that we are more free now in that regard that we were before
 

NoBacon

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!00% correct but again, you're labouring under the misapprehension that it's commonplace to watch it, or even pay a TV license. With streaming services becoming so prevalent, it became impossible to charge people 150quid for the right to own a laptop. No one I know pays it. Now if you were to roll the clocks back 30 years you were fucked for watching TV unless you paid it because there was no alternative and no excuse to tell the inspector and it was easier to monitor.

So you could make the argument that we are more free now in that regard that we were before

You’re getting in the weeds too much.

There’s a reason the people in charge do the things they do and want the things they want

They don’t want us free and we aren’t and we hand it over gleefully every single day. I could not believe my eyes during covid how quickly people surrendered everything to authority simply because they were told they had to and if you didn’t you weren’t a “good” person.

We have sovereign free will and 99% of people refuse to use it.
 

Chive Turkey

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I ask because I've run into alot of people from Europe in my work and hear alot of "In ________, this would be free!!" "In ________ you get 6 weeks vacations!"...."American healthcare is crazy!" ....when over time I've realized that their pay is usually shit and it's impossible to really move up financially if you don't come from money. They also seem to be generally lazy (long ass lunchbreaks, coffee breaks,). In the US its hard to move up, but it is possible for a fat Irish retard to have a 5 sink house.
The higher-paying your job in the US, the more money you'll get compared to a similar position most places in Europe. Private debt, local taxes and healthcare chip away at any income you get but after you reach a certain paygrade it's all just money in the bank.

I think a caveat is that job security is quite a bit worse in the US across the board. The predominance of at-will employment means it's easier to hire and fire and it's not always done with actual employee performance in mind. There does seem to be a nasty habit of upper management lacking accountability and fucking up and punishing employees and that can breed an unhealthy corporate culture that might not even revolve around productivity. That's at least a major reason I hear from American professionals who chose to work at European companies.

Ultimately, if you're qualified enough to have a range of options on either side of the Atlantic, it just boils down to personal preference.
 

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!00% correct but again, you're labouring under the misapprehension that it's commonplace to watch it, or even pay a TV license. With streaming services becoming so prevalent, it became impossible to charge people 150quid for the right to own a laptop. No one I know pays it. Now if you were to roll the clocks back 30 years you were fucked for watching TV unless you paid it because there was no alternative and no excuse to tell the inspector and it was easier to monitor.

So you could make the argument that we are more free now in that regard that we were before
funny aside: they (UK government / BBC TV) had a massive psyop to convince people that they had vans / trucks / cars with devices which could detect a TV in your house, they even had propaganda on TV showing vans driving around with huge yagi antennas on-top.
At the peak of their technology they simply compared a database of addresses (land registry, tax, etc) with a database of licence holders, they'd also use intimidation tactics & the courts would usually side with them since they were part of 'the establishment'.
 

The Shah of Iran

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funny aside: they (UK government / BBC TV) had a massive psyop to convince people that they had vans / trucks / cars with devices which could detect a TV in your house, they even had propaganda on TV showing vans driving around with huge yagi antennas on-top.
At the peak of their technology they simply compared a database of addresses (land registry, tax, etc) with a database of licence holders, they'd also use intimidation tactics & the courts would usually side with them since they were part of 'the establishment'.
I've had a few people (mostly old people in kitchen jobs) telling me that not paying it is stealing and that it should be enforced. I have a sub18 tweet Tomlinson abortionist's response to this which goes as follows.

Let's say for example you leave your bag outside the front door of your job overnight and when you come back in the morning it's no longer there, so you go inside and tell them your bag has been stolen. Once you've said it was you that left it unattended the first response is not going to be cursing the person who took it. They'll probably ask "why did you leave it outside?" So why then does the BBC not just lock itself behind a paywall to stop you stealing from them in an age when literally every other media/streaming service does this?

Answer: It is in their interest for you to watch their shite more than it is in your own. They can't get a message across if you don't watch it and therefore it ceases to be worth anything. Their tactic is to bypass the laws of economics and make demand irrelevant. It makes sense more when you run it through the framework of politics/power as one whole rather than pretending there's sides to all of it
 

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I've had a few people (mostly old people in kitchen jobs) telling me that not paying it is stealing and that it should be enforced. I have a sub18 tweet Tomlinson abortionist's response to this which goes as follows.

Let's say for example you leave your bag outside the front door of your job overnight and when you come back in the morning it's no longer there, so you go inside and tell them your bag has been stolen. Once you've said it was you that left it unattended the first response is not going to be cursing the person who took it. They'll probably ask "why did you leave it outside?" So why then does the BBC not just lock itself behind a paywall to stop you stealing from them in an age when literally every other media/streaming service does this?

Answer: It is in their interest for you to watch their shite more than it is in your own. They can't get a message across if you don't watch it and therefore it ceases to be worth anything. Their tactic is to bypass the laws of economics and make demand irrelevant. It makes sense more when you run it through the framework of politics/power as one whole rather than pretending there's sides to all of it
In Canada they just steal our money through taxes and fund 90% of our news media and then Canadians think we get the real news.
 
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