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Anybody else notice how incredibly depressing Burtons’s Batman (92’) sequel was?

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JoeBrotheChildSpitGuzzler

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When the villains' henchman are creepy murderous circus people and his ultimate plan is to drown infants, Yea it's a bit of a downer. Kevin smith pointed out on the Fatman and Batman he did on Returns that it's basically a movie about the villains. Batman is hardly in the first 1/2 of the movie basically (or more) so it's all about Penguin and Catwoman and max schreck being a commie's idea of a rich white guy.
 

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I just watched this and was surprised at how fucking sad this movie is. Gotham is basically Oakland, CA. The villains are violently abused sadists and I get that Tim Burton is a hippie who thinks that society creates criminals but goddamn. The Joker (‘89) was at least a criminal before he was defeated by Batman.

Catwoman is a metaphor for rape I’m guessing and I have no I idea what the Penguin is supposed to represent. The failures of the system? I don’t know.

Batman stalking gangland beating up gangbangers was fun to watch, I guess. But seriously Batman kills people again? Because that guy he lights on fire and the other dude he straps a bomb to definitely dies.

And he doesn’t even get the girl at the end.
He tries to murder the joker in the first one. When he realizes the Joker killed his family he firebombs the compound and everyone in it, the Joker is in the helicopter and says "you missed me"
 
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