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Am I a scab?

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I saw a thread about Pat being a scab when he lied about writing a screenplay during the WGA strike.

I didn't even know what a scab was. My work is on strike except me because I didn't wanna pay the union fee. But I still don't really have to work coz my whole team isn't working.
Ya you are a scab. It's all well and good to skip the dues and everything, but what happens in my job if you leave the union is you now deal with management on your own. And our management have firing quotas lol. Even if they know that the union will get you your job back (while getting you paid for the days you were "fired), so good luck. I don't really like my union per sebut they are better than the bosses
 

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Someone on twitter told Pat he was a scab even though he wasn't in the union, but it's twitter.
The term scab applies to members who cross, non members who replace members, and workers who don't belong and still work during a job action. It's unusual that a job in the tech sector that didn't include building the physical network would be unionized. What union are they part of? Is it some small "just the company" thing or part of an international?
 

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He's not a union member and has no obligation to strike with them. He's not replacing a union worker because he was already there. Not a scab.
If he resigned from a union or refused to join it he's still a scab. He said in later posts he isn't management. So he is a bargaining unit employee (not management) doing his normal job (while everyone else strikes). So he crossed the picket line. That's just true no real judgement on my part. To be honest, I'm in a blue collar union where it makes a hell of a lot more sense to be in a union, we do dangerous hard jobs and we don't get severance if and when we get walked out by the effete cunts that manage us.
 

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If he resigned from a union or refused to join it he's still a scab. He said in later posts he isn't management. So he is a bargaining unit employee (not management) doing his normal job (while everyone else strikes). So he crossed the picket line. That's just true no real judgement on my part. To be honest, I'm in a blue collar union where it makes a hell of a lot more sense to be in a union, we do dangerous hard jobs and we don't get severance if and when we get walked out by the effete cunts that manage us.
Good man, unions are important in real industry, fast food work not so much. I did find in my years that most ofn the leadershio just didn't want to be (insert trade or job), but rather play lawyer. I'd get sick watching my BA chat nicely about the kids and stuff to guys who fired a guy for a mistake. I spent time as a unit chairman for like 900 employees and I didn't really like what the union had become. Plus we had a terrible kike lawyer as our lawyer.
 

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Good man, unions are important in real industry, fast food work not so much. I did find in my years that most ofn the leadershio just didn't want to be (insert trade or job), but rather play lawyer. I'd get sick watching my BA chat nicely about the kids and stuff to guys who fired a guy for a mistake. I spent time as a unit chairman for like 900 employees and I didn't really like what the union had become. Plus we had a terrible kike lawyer as our lawyer.
Im thinking about running for steward at some point bc our current guys are go along to get along types, if not making side deals for their buddies to get away with murder. I will say that when my current steward fought for my closest friend who is a coworker to get his back, he fought really dirty and it was great to see. He basically got the overall district manager to agree that our supervisor is a liar and a liability. But if you have something small with the company he kinda doesn't give a shit
 

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Im thinking about running for steward at some point bc our current guys are go along to get along types, if not making side deals for their buddies to get away with murder. I will say that when my current steward fought for my closest friend who is a coworker to get his back, he fought really dirty and it was great to see. He basically got the overall district manager to agree that our supervisor is a liar and a liability. But if you have something small with the company he kinda doesn't give a shit
That's not so bad, small shit sucks but getting guys back on the property especially with 10-20 years is a big thing. You should run, the best change can only happen if good people step up.
 

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If he resigned from a union or refused to join it he's still a scab. He said in later posts he isn't management. So he is a bargaining unit employee (not management) doing his normal job (while everyone else strikes). So he crossed the picket line. That's just true no real judgement on my part. To be honest, I'm in a blue collar union where it makes a hell of a lot more sense to be in a union, we do dangerous hard jobs and we don't get severance if and when we get walked out by the effete cunts that manage us.
Dude, just not joining a union doesn't make you a scab. He isn't crossing a picket line because it isn't his line. Hes not a member and has no obligation to go out with them. They don't get to dictate taht all employees are union members or make ultimatums to non members. They have no power over him. What are they going to do? kick him out of the union he didn't want to join in the first place? Management decides if he keeps his job, not them. They can't even hurt his future prospects unless hes going somewhere else in the future that's a 100 percent union shop, which he won't. You Think weird shit about employment, dude.


Edit: even if he DID go out on strike with them, hes no union so the bosses could just fire him. Then would the union help him? No. So why would he stick his neck out for them? Even if they did itd only be if he started coughing up dues.
 

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Ya you are a scab. It's all well and good to skip the dues and everything, but what happens in my job if you leave the union is you now deal with management on your own. And our management have firing quotas lol. Even if they know that the union will get you your job back (while getting you paid for the days you were "fired), so good luck. I don't really like my union per sebut they are better than the bosses
sounds like your management is just forcing the place towards being a 100 percent union shop on purpose. which is fucked up because Unions are supposed to be helping workers, not giving them no choice but to join so they don't really have to do anything to earn their membership
 

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Dude, just not joining a union doesn't make you a scab. He isn't crossing a picket line because it isn't his line. Hes not a member and has no obligation to go out with them. They don't get to dictate taht all employees are union members or make ultimatums to non members. They have no power over him. What are they going to do? kick him out of the union he didn't want to join in the first place? Management decides if he keeps his job, not them. They can't even hurt his future prospects unless hes going somewhere else in the future that's a 100 percent union shop, which he won't. You Think weird shit about employment, dude.


Edit: even if he DID go out on strike with them, hes no union so the bosses could just fire him. Then would the union help him? No. So why would he stick his neck out for them? Even if they did itd only be if he started coughing up dues.
He’s still a scab, dude. I don’t care about it, unions are usually gay but if you’re doing the work a union covers while the union is on strike then you’re a scab.
 

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sounds like your management is just forcing the place towards being a 100 percent union shop on purpose. which is fucked up because Unions are supposed to be helping workers, not giving them no choice but to join so they don't really have to do anything to earn their membership
If I were to resign from my union I would still be in the union healthcare plan and pension. Of course they want you paying dues what's difficult to understand about that
 

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If I were to resign from my union I would still be in the union healthcare plan and pension. Of course they want you paying dues what's difficult to understand about that
He was never In the union you dummy. He. Owes. Them. Nothing. And. They. Owe. Him. Nothing. Do you think anyone working a job where some people are union should be forced to join the union? If so you're no in favor of helping workers, just the union's bottom line
 

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He was never In the union you dummy. He. Owes. Them. Nothing. And. They. Owe. Him. Nothing. Do you think anyone working a job where some people are union should be forced to join the union? If so you're no in favor of helping workers, just the union's bottom line
If he's non-management and receiving the same wage scale and benefits as the union employees he's benefiting from the collectively bargained contract without paying dues. The whole question here is if he's management which he implied he is not, ie while he declined to join the union he is more than likely in the benefits plan and wage scale system. Settle the fuck down
 

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I guess I could see how a smooth brain could believe that.
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If you think any non union worker is a scab we can just stop here. You are an idiot who thinks this guy owes loyalty to an organization that he's not a member of. I'm talking about this posters individual situation not in general because I don't care. Again what if hegies out not being a member and the company fired him, what will he do then and will your precious union help him? This answer is all I'm looking for.
 
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