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Yes stupid, the sun is always shining.

Udders

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Just because it may be behind clouds doesn't mean its not shining. You would know that if you didn't fail multiple science courses.

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AntsBatteryCharge

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"...would be far faster and cheaper."

I forgot that Pig thinks he can see the future.

How much faster and cheaper, Pat? Compared to what? Break it down for us.

"The Sun just goes away at nighttime, atalker. I'm sorry you're so stupid."


"Every home..."

All of them? I decide how much electricity you need, children. I am never wrong.
 
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Batteries exist, Patrick.
This point he is correct on, but not accurate, power is generated on demand there is no way to make reliable enough batteries to store enough for even overnights without a great financial and economic cost. We'd have to have a mix of things, like propane for fridges and batteries for lights. We're always going to have to generate on demand, there never will be widespread battery sourced power for hours a day grid-wide. There will need to be all low wattage electric products before that happens or a complete change in how we use our electricity.
 

Brooke Shields

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Are all cars gonna be electric in 50 years? Any mechanical futurist wizards like Pat here to explain? I hear a lot of queers saying this.
as long as we can continue to bleed the suckers who still have to drive for work (and who work) with ever rising gas prices then electric cars will be the future of those with jobs
 
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as long as we can continue to bleed the suckers who still have to drive for work (and who work) with ever rising gas prices then electric cars will be the future of those with jobs
You know coming from Jersey where the corrupt politicos used to brag how we tolled roads to "tax" those that use them, while missing the irony that those using them were working and that's why they used them, so you essentially were double taxing productivity, can you imagine what tolls will be without gasoline taxes? They will make 20% of your salary go towards roads that keep you income, property, and sales taxed for the 50% who sit home. The end is near, this model of state and citizen needs to be ended. If the Feds are watching, they should start realizing that bothering Rick beats what else I could be getting angry over. Rick is a far less depressing hobby than politics at this point.
 

FurBurger

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Just because you learned about it 5 minutes ago doesn't mean this isn't widely known. There's hundreds of thousands of research papers on storage and the power grid. At a basic level you need a mix. The most popular solution is nuclear for that. Guess who was and is working on the storage issues. Some guy who's Pat's boss now.

There's also gravity batteries. That take the excess energy then pump water up elevation to store and then release at intervals through a hydro dam

For places not near water they have storage facilities that raise heavy concrete blocks then release them in a similar.
The concrete block thing seems a bit iffy. But there's flywheels, and vanadium flow batteries, and compressed air, and compressed hydrogen, and these railway carts that go up and down inclines; and those big solar plants you see out in the desert with mirrors surrounding a central pillar heat salt until it melts, and can then tap power off it overnight.

Plus, it turns out that the Salton Sea has about three million metric tons of lithium under it for batteries; plus the solar and geothermal power to needed extract it.

Then there's a huge amount of money being dumped into fusion, and an unimaginable amount being dumped into battery development. Come up with a more efficient small battery, and you make money off every phone, tablet and whatever sold. Make a more efficient large battery, and you get cars, trucks and aircraft. If you get the booby prize and come up with a battery that only works at scale, that gets you industrial and grid storage.

Lastly, you don't necessarily need to store it. China have built 1800 mile long high-voltage powerlines; that's New York to Nebraska, or Death Valley to Edmonton, Canada. They can pump solar power from wherever the sun is shining to wherever needs it; same with wind, hydro or tidal power.

We don't need nuclear fission; Pat's just being a cranky old cunt.
 

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Geothermal seems like a promising direction to look. There's units that don't require you to dig down as far as the bigger units that could become standard and help maintain Temp, reducing the need for electric or gas for heating and cooling. Then larger geothermal plants (the ones that have to go down 50m+) could use that to turn turbines to create power. Another thing we have the technology for.
 
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