We want to start a website for our show footage. Who should we choose?

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it seems stupid that they relied on foundry (yesss) for so long, I think they (or their management) owned the O&A brand, so it's perplexing that they never sorted a proper website.

Maybe you know; didn't they have another website at one point? With the exception of foundry I've lost track of which website was which & who owned what. I know O&A never managed to sort it properly tho'
 
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LockedHDD__Pot said:
it seems stupid that they relied on foundry (yesss) for so long, I think they (or their management) owned the O&A brand, so it's perplexing that they never sorted a proper website.

Maybe you know; didn't they have another website at one point? With the exception of foundry I've lost track of which website was which & who owned what. I know O&A never managed to sort it properly tho'
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Danny can correct me if i’m wrong but i’m pretty sure it worked like this: They had one website for show stuff and then they had Foundry which was for everything. Supposedly management wouldn’t let them promote Foundry because it hosted old O&A content (maybe it was the other way around and they couldn’t promote the main site but could promote Foundry).
 
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Danny can correct me if i’m wrong
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Oh bro. You KNOW I will.

At WBCN, Steve was a bouncer somewhere. He had a band! Foundry. Foundry had a website called FoundryMusic.com. Steve was an O&A fan and back in like, 1998 started hosting a /opieandanthony page on Foundry. It became the "unoffical home" of the show. This was fairly early mainstream internet. For a radio show to have their own web presence at that time was unheard of. Fan pages, sure. Simple HTML with some links and downloads, perhaps news.

Steve went to audio school and was hired at WNEW. Foundry persisted. It became the only place for O&A stuff. WNEW had a page sure, but Foundry had EVERYTHING. FoundryMusic.com kept O&A alive though the 2002-2004 non-compete. Any real news and updates could be found there.

The split happened during the CBS era. CBS management didn't want to promote Foundry because porn and ad revenue they weren't seeing. So Foundry was "split" into OpieAndAnthony.com which really was just the O&A side of Foundry and Foundry was that plus everything else. If titties happened, you'd have to go to Foundry.

The watermarking was justified at first. In the Fark and Newgrounds days, everyone was lifting material for views. The watermark ensured people knew where it came from. I think he started doing that with the best intentions, but as time went on he realized that the more traffic going to Foundry meant more ad revenue that he didn't have to share with anybody else. So, now, a Tonight Show appearance by Jimmy would be watermarked even though Foundry had nothing to do with it. Steve wanted people visiting Foundry for O&A content and nowhere else. Steve became an Amazon affiliate. Louis CK on the show? Buy his new CD here! Porn girl in studio? Buy her DVD here! This became more important to Steve than the on-air product. Foundry had been providing a very decent income for Steve with 100% of O&A traffic. Sure, he was also paying for hosting and front/back end work but Foundry was operating at major profits for Steve.

Now YouTube & Twitter happen. Opie, after 10 years realizes the dollar value of the web content and suddenly takes issue with Steve and Foundry. Nevermind this has been the only place for O&A shit for 10 years. But now that Opie sees views and revenue going to Steve...MAJOR PROBLEMS. OpieAndAnthony.com is launched. Steve is asked to give up his archive of tapes. Steve asks for $10,000, even after the previous decade of ad revenue eclipses that figure. O&A both take issue with the ask for the sale. Steve is fired not long after.

Steve lands a job with Danny Bonaduce. The show is cancelled 8 months later. Steve takes a production/on-air gig in Scranton, PA. Steve hangs himself in his basement.
 
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I didn’t even like Steve on the show and it’s an enraging listen every time I go back to it. Norton is the worst offender by far. This clip corresponds nicely with another clip where Anthony discusses hosting photos from events in Boston on his own website and not knowing back then that hosting was very expensive so he had to call his ISP in tears when he got a five figure bill for the month for trying to host the content that Steve ultimately did with Foundry.

Not to mention all three of them being complete ignorant to the fact that this was pre YouTube dominance. Many very popular sites were stealing videos outright, reposting and rebranding as their own content.

Now perhaps Steve was a little short sighted to want such a small payout for the old content. Seems like it would have been smarter to offer it up per their request and use that as some goodwill for a longer employment extension.

It’s moves like this and wanting to take off every Monday that showed that Steve either had no clue how little value he brought to SiriusXM or he delusionslly thought that Opie & Anthony would save his job in perpetuity. I still think he was right in his argument but demanding 10k for content that was quickly finding its way to YouTube by then was shortsighted.

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Anthony and his dopey wife hosted the official O&A shit.
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Hi. No they didn't. Cheers.

Mr. Faggotry said:
Now perhaps Steve was a little short sighted to want such a small payout for the old content. Seems like it would have been smarter to offer it up per their request and use that as some goodwill for a longer employment extension.
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I feel like the $10K ask was like, a favor. He COULD have asked for more, and $10K for 2 multimillionaires shouldn't be a problem. Steve saw the writing on the wall and wanted to at least cover the last few months of expenses. In reality, that's all it was really going to cover.

Steve should have just handed it all over with zero lip. Hosting O&A content on Foundry made him a good bit of money. By the time Steve started at XM he had a condo in a NJ gated community plus another one he was renting to a tenant. I don't believe an O&A-less WNEW was paying Steve the imaging guy major bucks.

The loss of O&A content was a major, MAJOR blow for Steve. That was his bread and butter from 1999-2008ish? His Foundry income was easily greater than whatever XM was paying.
 
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Hi. No they didn't. Cheers.



I feel like the $10K ask was like, a favor. He COULD have asked for more, and $10K for 2 multimillionaires shouldn't be a problem. Steve saw the writing on the wall and wanted to at least cover the last few months of expenses. In reality, that's all it was really going to cover.

Steve should have just handed it all over with zero lip. Hosting O&A content on Foundry made him a good bit of money. By the time Steve started at XM he had a condo in a NJ gated community plus another one he was renting to a tenant. I don't believe an O&A-less WNEW was paying Steve the imaging guy major bucks.

The loss of O&A content was a major, MAJOR blow for Steve. That was his bread and butter from 1999-2008ish? His Foundry income was easily greater than whatever XM was paying.
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Do you think being thr curator of that content for so many years kept him in a job for longer than he should have been? Listening to Opie discussing that he hates Steve and refuses of ever talk to him after he sold them the content back and then Opie discussing Steve post suicide was like night and day.

It went from “he’s a piece of shit” to “he was one of the nicest guys ever and would do anything for the show.” Anthony clearly didn’t like him that much. Why did Opie keep him around for so long?
 
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Why did Opie keep him around for so long?
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I think one of the major things that people don't really understand is that Opie & Anthony for all intents and purposes simply showed up, did a show and went home. What would Opie or Anthony know of who does what, or what needs to be done in the first place. They have no fucking idea. They're the talent. Show up and go home. That's it. As long as they show up, the show works and they have content, what else would they care about? Steve was hired as a production / imaging guy. As long as there was new production and imaging, he's doing his job. Nobody knew what Erik's function was but neither did Opie. Opie assumed he was doing a good job because he'd text him to ask useless questions at 4pm. In reality he ate a sandwich took a nap and tried to fuck HappyTypingGirl on Paltalk.

But then Ben quit/fired and Steve now had to fill that vacuum. Roland is booking guests for the most part and Derek filled the production / imaging role. However, the show is still running without issue. Steve must be doing a good job, right? And that's how it rolled until YouTube & Twitter hit.
 
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BenDovid said:
Hi. No they didn't. Cheers.



I feel like the $10K ask was like, a favor. He COULD have asked for more, and $10K for 2 multimillionaires shouldn't be a problem. Steve saw the writing on the wall and wanted to at least cover the last few months of expenses. In reality, that's all it was really going to cover.

Steve should have just handed it all over with zero lip. Hosting O&A content on Foundry made him a good bit of money. By the time Steve started at XM he had a condo in a NJ gated community plus another one he was renting to a tenant. I don't believe an O&A-less WNEW was paying Steve the imaging guy major bucks.

The loss of O&A content was a major, MAJOR blow for Steve. That was his bread and butter from 1999-2008ish? His Foundry income was easily greater than whatever XM was paying.
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Do you know how much he made from Foundry? Maybe a couple thousand per month?
 
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Mr. Faggotry said:
It went from “he’s a piece of shit” to “he was one of the nicest guys ever and would do anything for the show.” Anthony clearly didn’t like him that much. Why did Opie keep him around for so long?
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Anthony can’t even say a single good thing about Steve in the show they did around his death. And it’s not his usual pushing down emotions but the fact that he doesn’t give a fuck. Anthony has talked multiple times about Steve fucking him over or something and there being bad blood. My wild guess is Steve wouldn’t give him pain pills or wasn’t down with his child fucking.
 
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Opie had ideas for their website that their home stations and affiliates would never approve. So they needed their own independent website. Before Steve, Anthony and his dopey wife hosted the official O&A shit. Steve had advanced knowledge for the time.
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Is this the one from the WAAF days? "Opie and Anthony's Secret Webpage" or something lame like that? If so, I heard that it was hosted on TIAC, a small, area ISP, and may have been hilariously defaced by some ne'er-do-well, bored high school kids because their security was lax.
 
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firstimelongtime said:
Is this the one from the WAAF days? "Opie and Anthony's Secret Webpage" or something lame like that? If so, I heard that it was hosted on TIAC, a small, area ISP, and may have been hilariously defaced by some ne'er-do-well, bored high school kids because their security was lax.
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Yes, It was hosted on one of those old school ISPs that I suppose offered their users bandwidth to host a site. The title of the page was their username, something like Anthonyandjen
 
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