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Patrick is more of a sperg in the book than he is the movie but overall it's a generally interesting character study that occasionally gets bogged down in the banality of the world and people it's trying to portray. I had to admire Ellis' commitment to da bit while writing it. Each and every time a character is introduced, Patrick has to give you a fucking play by play of their entire God damn wardrobe. I know it was written by a gay guy, but even they can't like writing about rich guy clothes that much. It's a thing that starts off as amusing and then gets gratingly tedious and then gets funny again as Patrick refuses to drop it. I listened to the audiobook, which is on YouTube in full, and often found myself tuning out whenever Patrick would start rambling about all his cool stuff, only to have to rewind it when he'd casually mention something like raping a woman with a can of hairspray in between all the horseshit. It's very funny, and the casual mentions of heinous violence amidst Patrick's yammering will often catch you off guard and reel you back into the story. I would recommend listening to the audiobook if you're a retard like me.

There's a lot more violence in the book, though much of it is clearly Patrick fantasizing or having one of his psychotic breaks, which are given more depth by the medium. A few of the crimes are more plausible though, and you get the same sense of ambiguity that was in the movie as to whether Patrick actually did the shit or not. There's more instances of Patrick fumbling social situations and generally behaving like a retard, including one encounter with Tom Cruise, which are very amusing. I think the book could've been shortened a bit as it does become a bit of a slog towards the middle.

Some faggots have said that the most chilling thing about the book is that it demonstrates how easily a Patrick Bateman type could infiltrate regular society, and could be sitting right next to you at your shit ass job. But I think this assessment is gay and stupid. If Patrick was working at a fast food restaurant or a mechanic's shop he'd likely be shit on regularly and just be a quiet faggot that murmured to himself in the corner. Or he'd be like a gymcel or something. An individual like him requires very specific circumstances to thrive within, and Wall Street during the 1980's was the perfect environment for him. Regular people would be way more unnerved by the weird shit he says and his faggoty haughty attitude than the rich queers he surrounds himself with in the book. If he had to co-exist with more actual people and do more actual people things it'd quickly become apparent something was wrong with him and he'd be ridiculed or exiled for it. Plus it's satire, so I'm retarded for even looking into it that much.

But overall I found it very enjoyable and interesting. This has been my book report. My favorite part was when he found the rat in his wall and put it up the girl's cunt.

 

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I read it a decade ago. I think the movie is better since there's a lot of chapter padding with him going on Joe Cumia diatribes.

I did like how much more gruesome it is and I get why it was cut from the movie. Although when he calls his lawyer at the end, he mentions a bunch of shit from the book.
 
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Ellis has said it was semi-autobiographical. Obviously he wasn't shoving rats up hooker's vaginas and cutting children's throats at the zoo but he was a rich kid who got success young with his first book and lived a very fashion oriented and materialistic life in the late 80s. He also hadn't come to terms with his sexuality and was still having sex with women back then which he has said caused a lot of misogynistic rage in him as he redirected his own self-loathing towards them. He was aware of it and channelled it into Bateman and the book in the hope that it would provide some form of catharsis. Same for the laundry list descriptions of every garment every character is wearing. Ellis knew his obsession with fashion was empty and soul crushing and so put it on the page, partly to show that Patrick is a ludicrous and shallow individual but also to remind himself that he was too.

By the way, if you like Ellis's work try The Secret History by his friend and old classmate Donna Tartt. It's a great book and would make a great film if done properly but has so far proved not to be able to make the switch from page to screen.
 

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I read it a decade ago. I think the movie is better since there's a lot of chapter padding with him going on Joe Cumia diatribes.

I did like how much more gruesome it is and I get why it was cut from the movie. Although when he calls his lawyer at the end, he mentions a bunch of shit from the book.
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Oh...You were finished?? Well allow me to retort...

Post your contact info so we can sue you for libel.

Oh, what? You can’t do that? Why not? I’m sure you have ample proof to back your ridiculously malicious and false accusations of misogyny, alleged acts of racism, legal charges of pedophilia, and the rest of your bullshit buzz-words that are used by millennials like you, who with no conscience whatsoever throw around those once very powerful words for the sole purpose of gaining the upper hand and public support of your constituents whenever you get involved in an altercation. Problem is, most people have a hard time believing anonymous users on a site known for using these tactics in an attempt to damage reputations and interfere with ones right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (sound vaguely familiar?)

The core purpose your forum is driven by envy, jealousy, failure, having no sense of purpose in your life and the desire to be prominent amongst of your equally dysfunctional pals on your ever diminishing platform. They’ve now become the magically shrinking Opie and Anthony related forums. Good move not using an O&A related name.

You’re now constantly being attrited and for good and wholesome reasons...Good will always triumph over evil.

Read on:

What this poster hasn’t mentioned is that every last DMCA that has been filed by myself, either on my own or with legal authorization by others who wish they had the time and energy to do so, are completely and totally legitimate and legal. There’s nothing false or illegal about the DMCA’s that I’ve filed. All Photos and videos on the internet were taken by someone, therefore someone owns the copyright to every last one of those photos and videos. I’m thorough in my filing. The forum just has too many ignorant members that don’t listen to the more logical moderators, and refrain from posting photos and videos that are reportable. They’re blinded by their desire to have their 15 mins and more importantly by their very real and palpable hatred.

Quasi has too much to lose and will never take the stance of a “Kiwi Farms” type of forum that a few sociopathic individuals run in their Moms house. They’re doing the only thing they can, taking infringing content down. If and when Quasi receives enough of those legitimate DMCA’s they shut down the forum. It’s really that simple. So for Johnny Cakes, Frunkass, and the other dozen or so sociopaths on that forum who suck all the fun out of what a forum is supposed to be... and fantasize about a lawsuit against me.... I have one word... SUBPOENA. Stop already.

I’ve filed 100’s of legitimate DMCA’s over the past several months, admittedly with the sole intention of having Opie and Anthony related subs banned. They’ve dedicated themselves to libel, harassment, and outright real-life bullying on and off the forum. Not just name calling and ridicule. I could care less about that. Their anonymity is what empowers them to post libelous and defamatory content. If not for that anonymity, which I believe is the reason for them not filing a single counter claim, they would find themselves in civil court facing a large number of defamation and libel suits by many of their “victims”.

There’s a reoccurring pattern of them using my intellectual property as Illustrations to accompany their ridiculous accusations of projected (typically) pedophilia, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Homosexuality etc... toward my family, friends and myself. They’re in the habit of using other individuals Intellectual property to drive home their abysmal message of hatred and libel.

So Again, there’s been nothing illegal about any of the DMCA’s I’ve filed. For me to do so would be a dire mistake on my part. I’m achieving the desired results playing by the rules. Why jeopardize that? REMINDER: This forum has gone so far as to brigade and bully my employers to the point of them letting me go from a few of my jobs, all in the name of “having fun picking on old guys”. That’s the only reason they’ve ever given for their atrocious behavior. This forum brigades to the point of bullying venues, agencies and other people in the entertainment industry into avoiding me, by utilizing dozens of anonymous emails and phone calls...many using the names of past Opie and Anthony guests, show members and friends to further try to get my attention and aggravate.

This particular forum consisting mainly of envious millennials loves to reiterate the fact that I’m 60 and for the most part retired (according to the sub”70 and near death”) and that I have a stream of income due to business dealings with my brother. They like to call it “welfare”, and are constantly mocking the fact that I have income that’s not worked for. They like to call me a leech. Why they do this is beyond me. In addition to the fact that they think I’m a bum, they put a large amount of effort into taking my work (which they call a hobby) away from me and my band members.

It became personal for me when the forum (and it’s 7 or so now banned predecessors) started harassing and bullying my 11 year old daughter, my deceased Mother, My innocent Sister, and my longtime GF, all for the purpose of trying to rile me up and get a reaction out of me to use as fodder for the forum. Interfering with my every day real-life has become a game of sorts for them, supposedly it was brought upon by a comment I made some years back. “You have no effect on my life”.... meaning that an internet forum that shit-talks people...especially people with any amount of notoriety, has the absolute right to do so, but in reality..does nothing to affect my bottom line $ or my real world reputation.

I support 1A, I defended that right, amongst others. by serving in the Army for 3yrs. (another fact that this particular forum seems to love mocking) People have the right to say what they want. When it became a “challenge” for the forum to get my attention, they took it to the next level. That’s where the line between 1A right and libelous accusations that damage ones reputation, employability and the right to live a life undeterred by malicious internet trolls was crossed. All for the sake of getting someone’s attention and having “fun” hurting a “boomer”.

My O&A forums points score alone is clear evidence of brigading. The non-ribbing that this comment alone will incur by the brigading, bee hive mentality of the O&A related forum shows that there’s collusion amongst the members of this forum and its moderators to do real life damage to certain people they see as “less than human”. Phone calls to my business and texts to my business number calling for my untimely death, taunting, horrific allegations...All of that means ZERO to me. Commentary about me and my brother written and posted on the forum, means nothing to anyone but the forum.

When my family became the focus of the Opie and Anthony leftover psychopaths, it became a problem that needed to be dealt with.

I liken what I’ve been FORCED to do (DMCA’s) with something that I was always intrigued with:

When Chicago mobster and really really bad guy, Al Capone (aka The Forum), was on a rampage against his enemies in the 20-30’s (Innocent Family and Friends) the Feds couldn’t imprison him for murder (aka- the subs libelous and malicious harassment and real life bullying, job interference, Doxxing my 11 year old daughters info). They did finally find a way to make his empire (aka- Opie and Anthony forum) crumble though fervently prosecuting him for the the less serious crime (but serious enough to get the job done) of tax evasion (aka-Copyright Infringement). They went another way entirely to get the desired results for the purpose of removing an evil, evil man from civilized society.

I (we) will continue to report this evil forum and file legitimate and legal DMCA’s at every turn until it’s gone.

Stop interfering with people’s real lives and livelihoods, and we’ll leave your stupid forum alone. Plain and simple.
 

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"Look at that subtle Samcro colouring. The tasteful thickness of the lettering."

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"Oh my God. It even has a veteran's patch."
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Ellis knew his obsession with fashion was empty and soul crushing and so put it on the page, partly to show that Patrick is a ludicrous and shallow individual but also to remind himself that he was too.
Yeah, that was my thought too when reading it. First was "why the fuck is he describing what these people are wearing?" and then I realized that's because that's what was important to him and he was constantly comparing himself to other people.

If it was Patrick Tomlinson instead of Bateman, he'd be discussing everyone's social accounts:

Price has a Twitter account similar to mine, almost 50,000 followers. Van Patten is a baby infant nothing who has under 100 followers.

Let see Paul Allen's account

Look at the 100,000 followers. The subtle following to follower ratio. Oh my god. He even has a blue checkmark.
 

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Tried to re-read it recently. Couldn't make it through the tedium. Even though it's very funny at times... Book got my ribs when Bateman had to lean over the counter at the video store because he felt he needed to see the female clerk's presumably shitty shoes.
 
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Great book. Found a copy at used bookstore just the other week, looking forward to reading it again.
(I sometimes read books more than once because I'm not as smart and special as Patrick)
I think I've read it about 3 times over the years and it's not only re-readable but it's better the second or third time. You notice clues and foreshadowing you might not see the first time and you see through characters like Julian and Henry more knowing what you know from the first read. It's obviously a book written by a woman (the prose is occasionally overly florid) and a lesbian at that (her chosen voice is a somewhat unreliable narrator who's a heterosexual yet slightly ambiguous young man) but its themes are as old as any of the tragedies the main characters could no doubt recite in perfect Ancient Greek.
 
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Each and every time a character is introduced, Patrick has to give you a fucking play by play of their entire God damn wardrobe.
Don't forget the entire chapter near the start devoted to just talking about his own wardrobe or whatever it was. I haven't read that book in about 15 years but I do recall having to skip that chapter and the chapter about Huey Lewis and the News because they both bored me to tears when I was younger. Maybe I could get through it now but back then it felt like torture.

I liked that the book left you with a more concrete ending insofar as questioning his sanity and recollection of events goes. The movie feels sort of half assed in the ending in a sense because the biggest doubt it casts in your mind is his lawyer's response laughing at what he believes to be a joke, where in the book (as I recall it) it ends with him having a delusional episode in the bathtub on vacation where he is very clearly dissociating from reality.
 
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