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- Mr. Tomlinson's feud started after members of the now-defunct Reddit site r/opieandanthony got his Twitter account suspended, causing him to threaten some bored trolls who never heard of him with a libel lawsuit. The trolls responded predictably.
- Mr. Tomlinson has been instructed many times by friends, family, police, and attorneys to stop engaging with his trolls, and that continuing to provoke them will cause him to be trolled even more. Mr. Tomlinson wilfully ignores this advice.
- He would eventually file a defamation suit against 60 anonymous people which was dismissed with Mr. Tomlinson being ordered to pay $34,762.25 for opposing parties' attorney fees.
- He ended up paying $83,736.99 due to his unsuccessful attempts to dodge the court-ordered judgement, for which he faced jail time and contempt charges.
- He also filed 2 frivolous restraining orders against people who had engaged in First Amendment-protected behavior (one for texting him and another for attending his contempt of court hearing), both of which were dismissed.
- Early on in the lawsuit, Mr. Tomlinson vandalized his own motorcycle and submitted a false police report blaming the people he was suing.
- He accidentally sent surveillance video of the alleged vandal to a troll. The individual in the video is very obviously Patrick S. Tomlinson.
- Mr. Tomlinson has never submitted this video footage during any of his many media tours, and desperately tries to scrub it from the internet.
- Mr. Tomlinson claims that the surveillance video was initiated by his "motion-activated" camera, which only collects "30 seconds at a time", despite the video being 32 seconds long and beginning several seconds before the "vandal" enters into the frame.
- On 13 April 2023, the individual responsible for calling the fake emergences (SWATs) to Mr. Tomlinson's house, a SWAT-for-hire dealer named "Torswats", revealed that Mr. Tomlinson ordered the SWATs to his own house because he wanted to get in the news and sue the MPD for money.
- Torswats would repeat these allegations in private chats which were not intended for public view.
- Mr. Tomlinson has gone on multiple news tours since the SWATtings started in order to promote his victimhood brand, utilizing the services of Lenora Claire.
- He also recently sued the MPD for money.
Norm on Bill Hicks
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I think the mistake here is talking about that stuff as if it was 2023. Making fun of women wasn't exactly edgy forty years ago, it was old hat.
Take my wife, please!
Most people go through life without having a single care about how corporations affect their life. Especially back then. And I guarantee after reading that somebody is already typing "maaaan" as a response.
For the record, I don't like the comedy of either Hicks or Kinison.
Norm just wanted to be funny, not complain about things he has no power over. He’d make up shit about his life just for the joke “my wife is a real battle axe…”
She was a real battle axe, though
He was never married, right?
He was married once but he had been divorced many years by the time he did that bit. He got separated around the time he was rumored to be fucking Elle McPherson. There's a Stern interview out there where Howard makes him confess to being separated. He's dressed as Bob Dole so that was mid-late 90s.
Hicks is gateway comedy that people are embarrassed to admit they enjoyed after their tastes develop. A bit like how no death metal fans will admit they started out with Slipknot and Lamb of God.
I'm not too proud to admit I found some of his stuff funny in my late teens and early 20s.
I'm not too proud to admit I found some of his stuff funny in my late teens and early 20s.
“I go threw two lighters per day” and “so you think Jesus wants to see a cross when he comes back” are pretty funny.
I loved Bill Hicks in my early teens. I don't think I ever actually laughed at his comedy though.
This was my experience with Carlin. Love him, but laughed out loud at about 3 jokes. I even like his pompous Modern Man poetry era. I just love hearing him talk.
Carlin and Hicks do not hold up well at all. Even their apolitical stuff is not really funny nor amusing. And neither of them were ever edgy because they only ever mocked Whites or Christians. And even then their mockery was in the faggiest ways possible. When Kinison mocked going to church it came from a unique place because he was a former evangelical preacher who toured all of America.
I would argue that even someone like Artie Lange is funnier than Carlin and Hicks. His stories of drugs and alcohol are mostly true. Stuff like him getting arrested for robbing a bank as a teenager. His stories of his father being crippled and likely being suffocated and mercy killed by one of his friends are extremely dark.
I would argue that even someone like Artie Lange is funnier than Carlin and Hicks. His stories of drugs and alcohol are mostly true. Stuff like him getting arrested for robbing a bank as a teenager. His stories of his father being crippled and likely being suffocated and mercy killed by one of his friends are extremely dark.
Jackie's ass. Officer Nigger Beater. God put you here to test my faith. Hitler had the right idea, he was just an underachiever.
Unfortunately many of the popular, martyred stand ups don't age well because popular comedic tastes change a bit with the times. If you listen to early Steve Martin or George Carlin they're absolutely not good at all and the audience is HOWLING.
Bill Hicks was a product of his time. And a liberal Texan who hated Republicans definitely had an audience. Before he died he saw that Clinton was no different.
What makes Hicks different is that there wasn't much mainstream attention on him until Letterman canceled him and then he died. And even then he was underground so it was like you were discovering something.
But yeah his stuff doesn't hold up. Very few comedians will be as timeless as this:
Unfortunately many of the popular, martyred stand ups don't age well because popular comedic tastes change a bit with the times. If you listen to early Steve Martin or George Carlin they're absolutely not good at all and the audience is HOWLING.
Bill Hicks was a product of his time. And a liberal Texan who hated Republicans definitely had an audience. Before he died he saw that Clinton was no different.
What makes Hicks different is that there wasn't much mainstream attention on him until Letterman canceled him and then he died. And even then he was underground so it was like you were discovering something.
But yeah his stuff doesn't hold up. Very few comedians will be as timeless as this:
Were you even around for Hicks? Because I remember things differently. Hicks was seen as a poor comedian in America. His tours were small and no one found him funny even outside of the political ranting. Everyone I know hated his act and he would bomb and walk off stage often in US shows. His whole being censored from Letterman was him knowing he would be censored and doing his jokes on a family friendly show and then whining like a bitch as if his eating pussy and cancer jokes were ever going to air. Going on a family friendly show and doing adult humor and then not getting your act aired is not censorship it is just a bitch move.
Hicks gained a massive audience in the UK and Europe because his entire act was basically "America is shit!! White people are SHIT!!! CHRISTIANITY IS SHIT!!!". He was so popular in the UK he recorded most of his specials there and had signed a TV gig to be a talk show host in England. He would do jokes like "Blacks have bigger penises than Whites!!!" that didn't even have a punchline or thought to them. Only liberal fags in modern American ever liked Hicks. But Hicks had tons of mainstream attention in Europe because his entire act was built around European audiences.
I was but a wee lad when Hicks was touring the US. I 'discovered' him after he died. And I had just entered college so I thought I was listening to someone smart and cool. I do still like the 'Rant in E-Minor' as a title.
After only knowing Denis Leary and seeing a more real version of that, yeah, I liked him.
But a few years ago I went back and listened and was like, there's a lot of dead air and long period of no laughing.
I want to like him but anything I like him for isn't related to his comedy. Him going on Texas public access and calling out the US Government for firing on the Waco compound with tanks (while showing the footage) was also ballsy. But then he had to go and die.
As always, thanks for the history lesson.
hicks was funny, then he became kind of a tool
i still like him, i can see why his contemporaries didnt give a fuck tho
i still like him, i can see why his contemporaries didnt give a fuck tho
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That’s why I liked Norm, he kept his life a complete mystery - even to the point he was dying for 10 years and barely told anyone. I was a huge fan of his since the 90s and all I knew about his personal life was he was Canadian, had a son, was once married, had a brother who was a tv news reporter in Canada, and he loved to gamble.