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In his prime, is Roy Jones Jr the best boxer ever?

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Outside of Sugar Ray Robinson.

MONTELL GRIFFIN
March 21, 1997, Taj Majal Hotel & Casino, Atlantic City • Titles: WBC light heavyweight
August 7, 1997, Foxwood Resort, Mashantucket, Connecticut • Titles: WBC light heavyweight


“I’ve never been in the ring with anyone in my life as fast as Roy Jones. I sparred Floyd Mayweather and he’s 25 pounds lighter than Roy and nobody could compare. I could see some of the punches coming, but there were some shots that came so fast that, even though I blocked them, I couldn’t believe how fast they were. He doesn’t move a lot, his hands were much faster than his feet were, but he could still move around. For his athleticism and God-given talent, I’d say Roy was the best I faced.”

VIRGIL HILL
April, 25, 1998, Coast Coliseum, Biloxi, Mississippi • Titles: Non-title

“He was very quick with his hands, he had a lot of intangibles. He was quick, he punched hard, he had good movement. He was never shaken by anything. If I hit him with a good shot, you could never tell; he didn’t show it. I never thought that he would throw a bodyshot because he never threw bodyshots. When I watched the film, his trainer said, ‘Do this, do that and sink one down to the body.’ Roy broke my rib, I just didn’t see the shot, but nevertheless I’ve never been hit that hard before.”
 
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He’s one of the rare dudes you can call a phenom without any exaggeration


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One of the clearest cases of Olympics fuckery is when he lost the gold to that no name gook in Seoul:

 

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He was an outrageous talent in his prime. Pre-heavyweight Jones is a fawkin problem for any middleweight ever.

The only contemporary I really see with a decent chance of beating him would have been Calzaghe.

Yes, he did beat him, obviously but this was post-heavyweight Jones, meanwhile Calzaghe was still near his prime.

His unbelievable work rate, constant pressure and ability to take a punch would have caused even a prime Jones some real issues.
 

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He was an outrageous talent in his prime. Pre-heavyweight Jones is a fawkin problem for any middleweight ever.

The only contemporary I really see with a decent chance of beating him would have been Calzaghe.

Yes, he did beat him, obviously but this was post-heavyweight Jones, meanwhile Calzaghe was still near his prime.

His unbelievable work rate, constant pressure and ability to take a punch would have caused even a prime Jones some real issues.
I loved Calzaghe, that guy could break anyone down but peak RJJ I think it's a win for Roy.
 

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Yeah the shit we saw him do in the 90s was unreal. Tarver fawwwwkin cracked the chin and it was over man. Coming down from HW really motherfucked his athleticism
I think if that fight takes place 3 years earlier (maybe blame Roy for the fact it didn't) Roy gets him. Roy had problems with southpaws but at his peak Roy picks him apart and doesn't have to worry about angles as much
 

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Griffin takes Roy to 8 or 9 (maybe later don't remember) Roy rightfully gets dq'd and then annihilates him in the first round. When Lennox got his revenge on Rahman it took several rounds, he didn't blow his doors off from jump.
 
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