If Any Of You Are Interested In Mexican Cartels (the history, the past and present players)- Here's An Excellent Rabbit Hole-

[EraGodless]

There's an archive on the site and you can search this stuff. This is kind of a passion of mine that I've had since around 2008 or so- if you have any questions in terms of books, documentaries and other stuff available on these cartels- just send me a message or I'll put links and answer questions in this post. I offer thus stuff up because I know a decent amount of you guys like Narcos, The Wire, and true crime/history and drugs.

Borderland Beat

Blog dedicated to the reporting of organized crime<br> on the border line between the US and Mexico.

www.borderlandbeat.com

 

[guest]

This shit always depresses me. Sick, soulless animals

 

[EraGodless]

This shit always depresses me. Sick, soulless animals

Yeah, the snuff videos are a bit much and you have to be really careful not to be desensitized.

If you're curious, the Cartels were trained by Americans (School of the America's at Fort Benning) and by Guatemalan Kabiles (Special Forces) to do the beheadings and dismemberment shit and videotape it and leave the bodies/heads in public places with a note. It's a psy-op that serves multiple purposes. Keeping the public in fear is one of them-

The cartels really didn't do the beheading and hanging off bridges shit until around the early to mid 2000's when the first and only legitimate wave of Zetas appeared on the scene. The low numbered ones (up to the 20's to 30's) were former Mexican special forces members or members of other elite military units. Generally, call numbers that are higher than the 30's were civilians with no formal military training.

So in short, we created this violence or atleast we got it kicked started.

 

[LingerLonger]

Leaving beheaded bodies has been going around for thousands of years. Vlad the Impaler was famous for leaving heads and bodies on spikes. The idea that the cartels only started displaying bodies in public recently is a sham. They had been doing over the top style hits since the beginning the cocaine trade. You just didn't see it in the media. Stuff like making rape and snuff films and sending them to surviving relatives. Or sending severed heads to people as mockery or a warning. They have been beheading each other and showing it in public since the Mayans and Aztecs.

The current cartels are entirely owned by kikes. Their big fentanyl trade is cooperative with the jews and the mossad and the chinese as well. And of course their guns are basically being walked right from the US military directly into their hands. Mexico is a failed state. Something like 90% of their military deserters literally defect straight into working for a cartel. Place needs to be wiped out entirely including the civilians.

 

[aRTie02150]

I'm too lazy to read but when my friend was in training about 15 years he would send me photos of cartel gang tags that were all over the base.

Straight up told me how they trained and armed one of the cartels to help get rid of one of the other cartels but the cartel they trained ended up becoming bad.

 

[EraGodless]

Leaving beheaded bodies has been going around for thousands of years. Vlad the Impaler was famous for leaving heads and bodies on spikes. The idea that the cartels only started displaying bodies in public recently is a sham. They had been doing over the top style hits since the beginning the cocaine trade. You just didn't see it in the media. Stuff like making rape and snuff films and sending them to surviving relatives. Or sending severed heads to people as mockery or a warning. They have been beheading each other and showing it in public since the Mayans and Aztecs.

The current cartels are entirely owned by kikes. Their big fentanyl trade is cooperative with the jews and the mossad and the chinese as well. And of course their guns are basically being walked right from the US military directly into their hands. Mexico is a failed state. Something like 90% of their military deserters literally defect straight into working for a cartel. Place needs to be wiped out entirely including the civilians.

They sure as shit were not leaving heads in coolers on government property or tossing severed heads into discotheques in Mexico until around 2005 or so. It simply wasn't done because it would bring to much attention to the plaza. The point of this shit us to make money- it's hard to make money when the fucking Marines are patrolling everywhere-


As a matter of fact, rival cartels will sometimes send hitmen into disputed territories abd kidnap civilians and cut them up or toss a bunch if bodies into the public square to bring heat to the Plaza (another psy-op).

I'd love for you to show me a source of Cartels leaving severed heads and bodies on the steps of government buildings before the 2000's. You have to remember, before the 90's it was one large organization that eventually splintered and then various families controlled the checkpoints. While there were mini wars mostly due to Sinaloa's incursion into the border states of Mexico, there wasn't an outright war and it was relatively peaceful- especially when it came to civilians getting murdered and chopped up. It was only around 2005 and 2006 that the violence started to increase and be more public and involve regular Mexican citizens.

Not to sound like Patrick, but I can legit teach a class on this stuff. It's not a failed state if the government is complicit. It's by design.

 

[Hoolies]

Why were they shooting at planes couple months ago, fawwkin' Delta SCUMBAGS motherfucked them too?

 

[EraGodless]

I'm too lazy to read but when my friend was in training about 15 years he would send me photos of cartel gang tags that were all over the base.

Straight up told me how they trained and armed one of the cartels to help get rid of one of the other cartels but the cartel they trained ended up becoming bad.

That would or could be the Zetas as they were the paramilitary arm of the Gulf Cartel that owned Matamoros, Reynosa, and Nueve Leon and all of the municipalities in between. There was a schism between the two in 2010-2011 (a high ranking Zeta money launder was murdered on orders of a plaza boss of the Gulf Cartel and and the cartel wouldn't turn the plaza boss and the murderers over to the Zetas).

 

[LingerLonger]

The point of this shit us to make money

The point of this is to infect the White race with drugs. Has nothing to do with money. The drug trade is like pornography or gambling. It is mass marketed and fostered on White and European nations by kikes. Kikes control the cartels and control the pharmaceutical companies and play all sides.

You think the CIA allowed mass amounts of cocaine into the US over money? The CIA literally funneled cocaine and crack into America with planes for decades without being caught. Had nothing to do with getting paid it was all about destroying White nations with easy to purchase hard drugs. Just like prohibition was started by kikes to get them to monopolize certain areas of vice behavior.

 

[guest]

I hate gore but I'd probably watch a cartel torture video featuring pat and Niki repeatedly every day for the rest of my life. The cartel just needed to do the MINIMUM of their jobs when they were there.

 

[EraGodless]

The point of this is to infect the White race with drugs. Has nothing to do with money. The drug trade is like pornography or gambling. It is mass marketed and fostered on White and European nations by kikes. Kikes control the cartels and control the pharmaceutical companies and play all sides.

You think the CIA allowed mass amounts of cocaine into the US over money? The CIA literally funneled cocaine and crack into America with planes for decades without being caught. Had nothing to do with getting paid it was all about destroying White nations with easy to purchase hard drugs. Just like prohibition was started by kikes to get them to monopolize certain areas of vice behavior.

And they didn't do it for decades- cocaine didn't start getting shipped into this country on large scale until 1978 or so. By 1983-85, it was already being reported that the CIA/government was involved in drug trafficking and arms trafficking. It was literally reported on network news. Look up the case of Barry Seal. For fuck sake, they made a made-for-tv movie about him in 1991 and by 1996-97 you had Garry Webb and his Dark Alliance stuff coming out.

Edit: they got caught within 5 years or so. The info was out there, but only a few were paying attention.

 

[EraGodless]

The point of this is to infect the White race with drugs. Has nothing to do with money. The drug trade is like pornography or gambling. It is mass marketed and fostered on White and European nations by kikes. Kikes control the cartels and control the pharmaceutical companies and play all sides.

You think the CIA allowed mass amounts of cocaine into the US over money? The CIA literally funneled cocaine and crack into America with planes for decades without being caught. Had nothing to do with getting paid it was all about destroying White nations with easy to purchase hard drugs. Just like prohibition was started by kikes to get them to monopolize certain areas of vice behavior.

So if they're trying to infect the White race with drugs, why did they make cocaine possession a relative slap on the wrist compared to possession of crack (what most black and brown people tended to prefer)- where you had people that had simple crack possession that were sentenced to hard time and eventually mandatory minimums. Mandatory minimum sentences for crack possession sure as fuck wasn't aimed at White people and it decimated the black community after most black communities were getting over the heroin epidemic of the late 60's to 70's.

Edit: I'm going to sound like a dick, but you're coming off like Patrick here- you don't really know what you're talking about, but you seem pretty sure of yourself. You arguing with me about Mexican Cartels/history and the politics within, is like Patrick arguing with Elon Musk on how to be a successful entrepreneur.

 

[guest]

Think there's any truth to the rumors about the Bush family being involved in shady dealings around those border towns? Sr. has been accused of being involved with the Mena Arkansas scandal (along with then Governor Clinton) so not a big leap from that. When Jr. was governor of Texas, he was notorious for executing any and everybody, but got a soft heart for Henry Lee Lucas, one of the few whose sentence he commuted. Lucas is considered not credible for the amount of killings he claimed (600+), but it's a logical fallacy to say that since he might not have been truthful about some things therefore everything he said is false. For instance, he claimed to be involved in a satanic cult in Florida that would do contract hits. By some accounts, he was also able to accurately map out where some cult killings took place in Matamoros by people like Adolfo Constanzo, including the famous Mark Kilroy murder. The kind of stuff they were into (Palo mayombe) fits pretty well under the umbrella term "satanic".
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/the-work-of-the-devil/[/URL]

Haven't seen the Netflix documentary they did about him, but from what I understand they were pushing the narrative that Lucas would fess up to murders he didn't commit in order to get privileges in prison. Even if that's true and he was just helping the Texas Rangers clear these cases off the books, who really committed them and were they related to something more nefarious? It's just a little weird that out of all the people Bush executed, he gives Lucas a stay of execution.

 

[EraGodless]

Think there's any truth to the rumors about the Bush family being involved in shady dealings around those border towns? Sr. has been accused of being involved with the Mena Arkansas scandal (along with then Governor Clinton) so not a big leap from that. When Jr. was governor of Texas, he was notorious for executing any and everybody, but got a soft heart for Henry Lee Lucas, one of the few whose sentence he commuted. Lucas is considered not credible for the amount of killings he claimed (600+), but it's a logical fallacy to say that since he might not have been truthful about some things therefore everything he said is false. For instance, he claimed to be involved in a satanic cult in Florida that would do contract hits. By some accounts, he was also able to accurately map out where some cult killings took place in Matamoros by people like Adolfo Constanzo, including the famous Mark Kilroy murder. The kind of stuff they were into (Palo mayombe) fits pretty well under the umbrella term "satanic".

The Work of The Devil

The disappearance of a University of Texas student in Matamoros led police to the discovery of a drug-dealing cult whose rituals were not only unholy but unthinkable.

www.texasmonthly.com

Haven't seen the Netflix documentary they did about him, but from what I understand they were pushing the narrative that Lucas would fess up to murders he didn't commit in order to get privileges in prison. Even if that's true and he was just helping the Texas Rangers clear these cases off the books, who really committed them and were they related to something more nefarious? It's just a little weird that out of all the people Bush executed, he gives Lucas a stay of execution.

GW used to be really close to the governor of Tamulipas, Tomas Yarrington (he was also once the mayor of Matamoros). Yarrington was corrupt as fuck and he was inventually wanted by Interpol after he went on the run and fled Mexico due to trafficking and bribery charges.

There's no fucking way that Bush didn't know what this guy was up to-

Edit: There's a former Mexico head of security (Genaro Garcia Luna) that was just found guilty in a US federal court of quite a few charges. He has close ties with Hillary Clinton. He was the highest ranking law enforcement officer in Mexico. Taking bribes from multiple cartels and pretty much actively trafficking narcotics.

Tomás Yarrington - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Genaro García Luna - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Nick Gerlips]

Hey @EraGodless what books on the history of this would you recommend?