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How long is the mind / body f’ed up after a addiction?

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Remember the Lawrence brothers? Joey, Matthew, and the one no one remembers have a podcast. Matthew did Mrs. Doubtfire with Robin Williams and he told a story about how he walked into Robin's trailer once and saw him basically suicidal. He explained to the then 11 year old how he used to do drugs and even though he's been clean for years and the doctors say he's fine, he knew that his drug use permanently ruined his brain.
 

Lamont & Tonelli

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Pretty much forever, once your brain gets itself into a track like that there's really no way to fix it. If you have the will you can force yourself to not act, but the desire never goes away. Ask anybody, we're all addicts here.
Good luck, no BS. Cutting out processed foods is tough, and I suggest looking for things to read that are outside your normal wheelhouse to help cope with the lack of constant novelty that internet access brings. Learn to knit or something like that, jumprope is good exercise but hardly a skill that translates to anything else.
 

aRTie02150

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I quit porn almost a month ago but I’m badly fatigued and low energy. Lot of brain fog too.

I’m going to try a 4 week dopamine detox to see if they helps. I reallly would just have to cut out pizza and the internet I think for 4 weeks.

In b/4 some one calls this a fed post
Go feed some crows.

It'll change your life.
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AntSucks

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The past couple of days my sleep schedule has been thrown out of whack, but somehow that and the combination of the heat I've been having some really great boners. Like throbbing pulsating hardons that are just yearning for a hole to fuck. I'm wide awake after 2 hours sleep with blood pulsating through my cock like the Enterprise-D engine at Warp 9.5. It's led to some great jerk off sessions with multiple videos open on both monitors. Maybe it's not the dopamine you're missing, but you just need to buy a second monitor?
 
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Pretty much forever, once your brain gets itself into a track like that there's really no way to fix it. If you have the will you can force yourself to not act, but the desire never goes away. Ask anybody, we're all addicts here.
I think it's possible to shake some things eventually. I've had multiple people tell me that I am or was an alcoholic. I liked to binge drink back in college and then when I graduated I didn't drink as much. Part of that was a concerted effort, but I also just really hated being hungover. However for years I had the habit of going weeks to months without drinking anything, but the moment I got one drink in me I had the strong urge to drink everything. And that urge would last for about a week from when I finished the last beer or whatever I had. When people hear that that's where they tell me I'm an alcoholic technically.

I eventually got over that by having a drink and keeping the liquor bottle in front of me and just resisting the urge to keep going. It wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but took some willpower. I'd just have to come up with excuses why I shouldn't. Maybe it isn't ideal that the strongest reason I could come up with most of the time was "I enjoy that bottle and it's hard to find where I live so I'm not going to waste it getting drunk" but it worked. Nowadays I can have a drink and be done, no problem.

The real problem is almost everything in modern life is addicting. Forget drugs and alcohol. Cell phones, binge watching shows, the food we eat is all bad. More and more doctors are speaking out how the food industry purposely makes their garbage food addictive. I imagine most of us have seen the study where they gave mice cocaine and oreos and the mice got more addicted to oreos. We've been fucked by the wrold and we don't even notice it. Only solution is to got live in the woods until you overcome everything.
 

aRTie02150

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I think it's possible to shake some things eventually. I've had multiple people tell me that I am or was an alcoholic. I liked to binge drink back in college and then when I graduated I didn't drink as much. Part of that was a concerted effort, but I also just really hated being hungover. However for years I had the habit of going weeks to months without drinking anything, but the moment I got one drink in me I had the strong urge to drink everything. And that urge would last for about a week from when I finished the last beer or whatever I had. When people hear that that's where they tell me I'm an alcoholic technically.

I eventually got over that by having a drink and keeping the liquor bottle in front of me and just resisting the urge to keep going. It wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but took some willpower. I'd just have to come up with excuses why I shouldn't. Maybe it isn't ideal that the strongest reason I could come up with most of the time was "I enjoy that bottle and it's hard to find where I live so I'm not going to waste it getting drunk" but it worked. Nowadays I can have a drink and be done, no problem.

The real problem is almost everything in modern life is addicting. Forget drugs and alcohol. Cell phones, binge watching shows, the food we eat is all bad. More and more doctors are speaking out how the food industry purposely makes their garbage food addictive. I imagine most of us have seen the study where they gave mice cocaine and oreos and the mice got more addicted to oreos. We've been fucked by the wrold and we don't even notice it. Only solution is to got live in the woods until you overcome everything.
A smart mouse would sell the cocaine he was given and use the money to buy Oreos and still have some cash left over.
 

Lamont & Tonelli

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reasonable critique
I'm more talking about general compulsive behavior being difficult to break if you're deep in a rut. I think alcohol has much more of a genetic component than most dependencies. I personally never had issues with alcohol or cocaine or any other hard drugs, but smoking? Sugar? Getting stuck in bad behavior patterns? Tough to break out after a decade or more, those pathways are deeply-etched in my brain.
 
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I think it's possible to shake some things eventually. I've had multiple people tell me that I am or was an alcoholic. I liked to binge drink back in college and then when I graduated I didn't drink as much. Part of that was a concerted effort, but I also just really hated being hungover. However for years I had the habit of going weeks to months without drinking anything, but the moment I got one drink in me I had the strong urge to drink everything. And that urge would last for about a week from when I finished the last beer or whatever I had. When people hear that that's where they tell me I'm an alcoholic technically.

I eventually got over that by having a drink and keeping the liquor bottle in front of me and just resisting the urge to keep going. It wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done but took some willpower. I'd just have to come up with excuses why I shouldn't. Maybe it isn't ideal that the strongest reason I could come up with most of the time was "I enjoy that bottle and it's hard to find where I live so I'm not going to waste it getting drunk" but it worked. Nowadays I can have a drink and be done, no problem.

The real problem is almost everything in modern life is addicting. Forget drugs and alcohol. Cell phones, binge watching shows, the food we eat is all bad. More and more doctors are speaking out how the food industry purposely makes their garbage food addictive. I imagine most of us have seen the study where they gave mice cocaine and oreos and the mice got more addicted to oreos. We've been fucked by the wrold and we don't even notice it. Only solution is to got live in the woods until you overcome everything.
You've hit the nail on the head. Everything that makes people feel good is "addictive," but it's about self-control. The idea that human weakness is some "disease" that's out of your hands is bullshit peddled by people who are either selling something or want to control you in some way.
 

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The past couple of days my sleep schedule has been thrown out of whack, but somehow that and the combination of the heat I've been having some really great boners. Like throbbing pulsating hardons that are just yearning for a hole to fuck. I'm wide awake after 2 hours sleep with blood pulsating through my cock like the Enterprise-D engine at Warp 9.5. It's led to some great jerk off sessions with multiple videos open on both monitors. Maybe it's not the dopamine you're missing, but you just need to buy a second monitor?
I get this all the time. Wake up right after falling asleep with the most insane animalistic horniness imaginable
 
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You've hit the nail on the head. Everything that makes people feel good is "addictive," but it's about self-control. The idea that human weakness is some "disease" that's out of your hands is bullshit peddled by people who are either selling something or want to control you in some way.
Some things are objectively harmful and addictive like drugs, alcohol, and ultra processed foods. Those have actual chemical effects on you body. But addictive behaviors, once noticed, can be overcome. So in the case of our friend Nigger Jim I think he's being a bit dramatic, but so long as he abstains from porn he'll be fine.

I've already posted it once today in the Kike Hate Thread so I feel I can't post it again. The idea that addiction is a disease and there is an entire industry built around it is, as Livia Soprano would tell you, nothing but a racket for the jews.
 
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