Actual crimes committed against Pat

[BudDickman]

Let's put aside the swatting, which is under investigation and was probably not committed by anyone here.

I don't think sending annoying text messages is a crime anywhere. There are laws on the books about telephone harassment, which is what Pat is banking on. But those laws seem to be about calling someone's landline repeatedly, which was a much more effective form of harassment before smart phones.

Pat can block anyone's number and set his phone to silent for anyone not in his contacts. Also, cyberstlakers don't call him, so he doesn't even have to make calls silent. If he doesn't want to miss any legitimate texts from people not in his contacts, he can periodically check his texts that were silent and respond to the legitimate ones. There's really no excuse for Pat to be engaging with cyberstlakers via text.

Then there are Pat's claims about identity theft. I'm pretty sure you have to steal something or obtain improper access to sensitive personal information to commit identity theft. Just pretending to be Pat to call a black woman a spade is not identity theft.

There is some gray area with stuff like the high school transcript and I think some rascals have signed up Pat to receive marketing emails from "debt solutions" companies. I guess you can argue that by impersonating Pat to engage with a financial service company, you're committing identity theft. But you're really just signing him up for spam. No one here has Pat's social security number to be able to commit actual identity theft, and what would be the point, he's fucking broke.

The vandalism was obviously Pat.

Then there's the guy who scattered lunch meat on his front steps a couple years ago. That's littering.

 

[UnPRePared]

His birth was a crime against humanity.


Fin

 

[Mitch Weaver]

I’ve called him fat on this board a time or ten.

 

[SFWA liaison]

the hate crime of fatphobia

 

[peckafacce]

Its really hard to claim harassment, when you constantly reply.

 

[guest]

Felony failure to recognise what a special important boy he is.

 

[Oogie Farts 1488]

Telephone harassment is mainly used as a charge when someone threatens someone else repeatedly over the phone. Like an exboyfriend keeps texting a girl that he's going to kill her, shit like that. Nobody here has ever threatened Patrick, except Patrick himself. The only people at risk of being charged here are Patrick, and whoever did the swatting (a tranny working with keffals trying to get kiwifarms closed)

Texting someone "You're smelly" or "the lizard king says you owe quasi" is childish shit that nobody cares about except Patrick. He is incapable of ignoring the texts, and he wont change his number because he likes the attention. Nobody's ever getting charged

 

[BoringFaggot]

Its really hard to claim harassment, when you constantly reply.

Add in the fact that he had his phone number public, and he bragged on numerous occasions to be a "troll fighter".

 

[Pringle Can Lothario]

Any evidence he has for crimes will be suppressed in an evidentiary hearing.

There is clear evidence he altered/modified comments on his site. There are elements of false flagging in the vandalism and other instances. The chain of custody isn't there. No states attorney is going to stake their career on a clown that can't keep his lies straight.

And yes, Fatrick. You would be on the witness stand and subject to cross-examination. That's how the Constitution works, faggot.

 

[BudDickman]

Any evidence he has for crimes will be suppressed in an evidentiary hearing.

There is clear evidence he altered/modified comments on his site. There are elements of false flagging in the vandalism and other instances. The chain of custody isn't there. No states attorney is going to stake their career on a clown that can't keep his lies straight.

And yes, Fatrick. You would be on the witness stand and subject to cross-examination. That's how the Constitution works, faggot.

The most fucked up thing is that he tampered with the content of his email exchange with Brian Laroque, which we will be able to prove when we get the emails from the MPD. He definitely changed the case number in the subject line to something random so that Josiah wouldn't be able to request more information about the incident, but I suspect he also changed the content of what he wrote to make it consistent with a swatting incident, as opposed to whatever it actually was.

 

[Faggot Boqposter]

Him constantly declaring victory and how the trolls have not affected his very successful writing career might hurt his cause.

Using the fax machine to send hooligans pictures of him blowing trump made my elderly father laugh so hard he about had a pulmonary embolism. That might be a crime.

 

[Dummy Gaynuts]

That's how the Constitution works, faggot.

Jefferson hated fat faggots with bitch tits

 

[Pringle Can Lothario]

Jefferson hated fat faggots with bitch tits

And he banged black chicks, so his stance on Milwaukee Pepperoni is pretty strong.

 

[Phish]

Yes. We dont have his social.

 

[FurBurger]

Let's put aside the swatting, which is under investigation and was probably not committed by anyone here.

I don't think sending annoying text messages is a crime anywhere. There are laws on the books about telephone harassment, which is what Pat is banking on.

I'm not a lawyer, but from what I've read he needs to make it unequivocal that he doesn't want to talk to you. If he copy/pastes and keeps replying, that suggests he's open to conversation.


To put it another way, I'm pretty sure Big Dick Andrew got the copy pasta, kept texting, and walked into a courtroom to face Pat. No felonious texting charges, no consequences at all; just the judge warning him that the court proceedings might be potentially used as evidence, in the event of a competent adult running Pat's case.

Then there are Pat's claims about identity theft. I'm pretty sure you have to steal something or obtain improper access to sensitive personal information to commit identity theft. Just pretending to be Pat to call a black woman a spade is not identity theft.

Again, I'm no lawyer, but I believe you need to profit from whatever you take to count it as theft.

 

[guest]

Any evidence he has for crimes will be suppressed in an evidentiary hearing.

There is clear evidence he altered/modified comments on his site. There are elements of false flagging in the vandalism and other instances. The chain of custody isn't there. No states attorney is going to stake their career on a clown that can't keep his lies straight.

And yes, Fatrick. You would be on the witness stand and subject to cross-examination. That's how the Constitution works, faggot.

Would it even get to trial? I would imagine a DA/state's attorney isn't going to take Piggy's phone and look at the texts as evidence, wouldn't they just subpoena the phone company for texts? Not sure how long they keep the messages but I think they can start an investigation where they capture all the text going to his phone and see that he's constantly responding. Or look at his Twitter where he's constantly antagonizing people and see that he's never an innocent victim in anything.

 

[guest]

Would it even get to trial? I would imagine a DA/state's attorney isn't going to take Piggy's phone and look at the texts as evidence, wouldn't they just subpoena the phone company for texts? Not sure how long they keep the messages but I think they can start an investigation where they capture all the text going to his phone and see that he's constantly responding. Or look at his Twitter where he's constantly antagonizing people and see that he's never an innocent victim in anything.

Right. Rick has been saving all of these screenshots in his “evidence” folder but that shit would be thrown out in 2 seconds in a courtroom if it got that far, which it wouldn’t because no prosecutor is going to move forward with screenshots. You need the actual texts from the phone company, which would obviously show all of his responses and threats.

He’s a fat, stupid asshole who thinks once he’s “heard” then everyone just goes straight to prison. Not so, fat boy.

 

[MonsterSteve]

He's guilty for being FAT.

 

[guest]

I'm not a lawyer, but from what I've read he needs to make it unequivocal that he doesn't want to talk to you. If he copy/pastes and keeps replying, that suggests he's open to conversation.

He can't even tell the atalkers to leave him alone without antagonizing them. He can't just say "please don't contact this number". First he has to threaten them with prison, then he calls them mentally ill. Then he acts like a cunt and tells them they've been "instructed to" like he's an authority figure and not a fat loser sitting on his couch under a pink blanket.